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AveryStar4Eva

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If it was me I would move Barzal up , Marner to L3 and Stone to L4

McDavid-Mack-Barzal-this is your speed line

Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron-whats understood doesn't need to be explained

Tavares-Point-Marner-IMO Marner would work better with 2 more cerebral players

O'Rielly-Cout-Stone is our shut down D 1st line

This looks great as well. Marner/Tavares actually makes a lot of sense with pre built chemistry. I might swap Stone/Barzal. Gives the top line a safety net defencively and Barzal on the fourth line gives them some much needed speed. You can’t really go wrong with any combination
 

b in vancouver

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No chance in hell Bergeron who played wing in every international tournament plays wing again. The floor is also made of floor

Not to defend that 'He won't play wing.' post ...

In all honesty, especially at the WCOH, it was hard to tell which one was centre. They both take face-offs, shift constantly in the offensive zone, both will rotate high to low to wing and take the slot - and either one would become the de facto defensive centre depending on positioning. Half the time Sid looked like he was the RW. That's what makes them special players. Especially together as it's like they think the game the exact same way.
I just write it up Marchand - Crosby/Bergeron
 

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Not to defend that 'He won't play wing.' post ...

In all honesty, especially at the WCOH, it was hard to tell which one was centre. They both take face-offs, shift constantly in the offensive zone, both will rotate high to low to wing and take the slot - and either one would become the de facto defensive centre depending on positioning. Half the time Sid looked like he was the RW. That's what makes them special players. Especially together as it's like they think the game the exact same way.
I just write it up Marchand - Crosby/Bergeron

That didn't happen, did you dream it?
 

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First thing first, you want to make your team the best team, not a team with the 14 best forward.
Role, chemistry, experience are variables that should not be neglected.It is sure that there will be high quality excluded which is perhaps found in the 6-7 best foward, but the difference between the 7th and the 20 is so minimal. You have to look at the big picture.
After that, what do you want in your roster? For my part, I want speed and size. I want at least 1 player per row who is very responsible defensively. I want a quality left-handed center and a quality right-handed center to take the faceoffs. I have at least two wingers (one left handed and one right handed) who excel on the strip. I want at least two players who are good at forward chess to kill momentum. I want 2 players who specialize as PP bumpers and two players who excel on the wall. I want at least 4 players who are able to rush the play by their entry speed and at least 2 players who can calm things down.

For me, McDavid and Nathan Mackinnon is the center of my lineup. The first one had speed and driving hability and the second is strong, very good on the half wall and play a solid 200 game. I keep Mcdavid on center.

I bring back Crosby, pretty solid player on the PP on the goal line. Marchand and Bergeron are lock for me, they will play again with Sid the Kid on a third line who will play against the first.
I really like Stone's two-way game. His speed is ok but his presence with Mcdavid will be reassuring, in addition to the large number of tunrovers created will be dangerous with the speed of mcdavid

McDavid - Stone
Mackinnon
Marchand - Crosby - Bergeron

At this point, anything is open. I want the ability to drive of Brayden Point on my team. Pretty good bumper, and great passing ability with a speed who's match Mackinnon speed. I put him on center with Mackinnon on the wing. I want Matt Barzal on my team to increase puck possession. I don't want him to play on the top 3 line, but I want him as my 12 or 13 forward,
it is an interesting card to have.

McDavid - Stone
Point - Mackinnon
Marchand - Crosby - Bergeron
Barzal

I have now 4 driver and puck possession guy with Barzal, Point, Mackinnon and McDavid. I have Stone and Bergeron to play PK and in end game. I have Marchand who is notable left winger complement.. I have Bergeron who solide on face-off has a R, and Crosby solid on the L.
I would like to add a player who would be able to slower down the pace with a more cerebral game, I find that this is missing in the lineup, a player with a hockey sense A +. I feel like Suzuki and Tavares could be a fit but I like more the speed of Mitch Marner, adding that he had some defensive ability. I put him on the fourth line as of now. I have to find two lefty to play on the top 2 line. Ryan O'Reilly, Huberdeau, Hall,Tavares, Nugent-H,Couturier, Horvat,Dubois are on the map but I feel like I don't want any of these player to play on my top 2 line, so I'm thinking of re-adjusting my provisional alignment a little bit. I have Mcdavid at center who are a lefty so I put him on the board, and I want a R Center with him to passe him the puck. Crosby stay on center.

Mcdavid - Point - Stone
Marchand - Bergeron - Barzal
Crosby - Makinnon
Couturier - Marner

So I separate Marchand-Bergeron and Crosby, but there still a solid option in the tourney. I keep Bergeron/Marchand together and I add Barzal to add some speed on the wing. I like Bergy at center. I put mcdavid on the wing, but a center righty with him and keep stone with Mcdavid. I put Mackinnon on the wing with a lefty center. Marner are on the fourth but I can see him on the second replacing Barzal

I want a solid two-way center on the 4th line with size is a plus. Scheifele,Couturier,ROR,Dubois,Horvat,Giroux,Stamkos,Toews,RNH,Monahan. Giroux,Stamkos, not the type of player I want there, . I feel like Toews is not good enough to catch up the year with no games. I'd go with Sean couturier here. I have to find two LW's for the third and fourth line. Mackinnon drive the line with his speed, Crosby manage the OZP. A great IQ is not necessary here, more a good shooting guy with speed and size. Huberdeau could be a fit, or Hall too. I'd go with Jo Huberdeau here


Mcdavid - Point - Stone
Marchand - Bergeron - Barzal
Huberdeau- Crosby - Makinnon
Couturier - Marner

I let the thing like that at Foward position.
I have to work on the defensive to watch what kind of experience I'm going to have. No brainer for me is Cale Makar. Solid two-way game, excellent shooter with great breakout ability. Samuel Girard is a good fit here, they already know each other well. Girard is very underestimated, he controls the matches of colorado and defends very well. Because of his size, this pairing turn into my second pairing. My favorite Canadian defenseman is Alex Pietrangelo, I'm pretty confident with him on the ice for a lot of minutes. theodore, another underestimated defender who knows Pietrangelo well in 2022 go with him. I have four two way defenseman with a good first pass, I miss a solide offensive threat and a solide defensive defenseman. On the left side, Rielly and Chabot are strong option, Giordano and Nurse are considered. Weber,Spurgeon,Parayko,Burns,Letang,Hamilton,Doughty,Ekblad,Ellis are option on the right side. I like Ryan Ellis to be a solid PP option. I like Doughty or Weber for the leadership, and I like a lot Spurgeon for the two-way game. I Weber-Rielly-Parayko and Chabot

Theodore - Pietrangelo
Girard - Makar
Rielly - Weber
Chabot - Parayko

The third and the fourth pairing could be interchangeable. So with Price,Weber,Pietrangelo,Crosby and Bergeron, I have 5 player of the 2014 roster. I don't know if this is enough. Experience and leadership is very important

Mcdavid - Point - Stone
Marchand - Bergeron - Barzal
Huberdeau- Crosby - Makinnon
Couturier - Marner


I have Point and Mcdavid who are pretty good on shootout so I'm okay. I will go with ROR on the fourth line.

PP
Crosby
Mcdavid - Bergeron - Mackinnon
Makar

Barzal
Marchand - Point - Marner
Rielly

PK
Couturier - Stone
Bergeron - ROR
Crosby can play,

I feel like I have two equal power-plays, I don't really have a threat of a powerful throw. i dont want weber on power play, dont have enough runtime. So I would bring Stamkos as a potential weapon.
Tavares/Horvat/Scheifele for my final spot. I like the speed and the game of Bo Horvat. I think he his the next J. Toews. He can take face-off, can play bumper PP, can play PK, leadership, can play center. Love him. Scheifele was close as a lock but I have to let him on the bench. Not the greatest fan of Tavares. Hall could end up in the lineup but he his the same player as Huberdeau. No room for Dubois. Suzuki is not far off if he continue to play like that. RNH not too far.

So my team

Mcdavid - Point - Stone
Marchand - Bergeron - Barzal
Huberdeau- Crosby - Makinnon
ROR - Couturier - Marner
Stamkos - Horvat

Theodore - Pietrangelo
Girard - Makar
Rielly - Weber
Chabot - Parayko

Price
Binnington
Hart/Blackwood

PP
Crosby
Mcdavid - Bergeron - Mackinnon
Makar

Barzal
Marchand - Point - Marner
Rielly

PK
Couturier - Stone
Bergeron - ROR
Crosby can play,
 

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This is one of (if not the best) forward groups I have ever seen. The punch in attack in ridiculous (every top 9 player is above a point a game) and could have a fourth line comprised entirely of selke winners or finalists is insane
 
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Huberdeau-mcdavid-sheifele
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Tavares-oreilly-stone
Marner

I think you need to bring Tavares and stamkos. Maybe that changes in a year but I think this is one of the more balanced line ups. March/berg and oreilly/stone can be your top 2 pk. Take your pick for the PP
 

Muikea Bulju

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Last season + this season combined, Crosby is #33 in points among canadians. Between Tyler Bertuzzi and Alex Killorn.

This season alone, he is #34, behind guys like Verhaege, Barrie and Ritchie

Crosby is an offensive player. If he is not higher than that on points, he shouldn't be on the team.

It's becoming quite obvious that current level of play has nothing to do with people predicting he'll make Team Canada. It's all about past achievements.

If Crosby is even worse next season, does Armstrong have the balls to drop Crosby out? Let's hope so.

If Crosby gets in, and significantly underperforms, will the coach have the balls to bench him, or put him in the press-box?
 

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Last season + this season combined, Crosby is #33 in points among canadians. Between Tyler Bertuzzi and Alex Killorn.

This season alone, he is #34, behind guys like Verhaege, Barrie and Ritchie

Crosby is an offensive player. If he is not higher than that on points, he shouldn't be on the team.

It's becoming quite obvious that current level of play has nothing to do with people predicting he'll make Team Canada. It's all about past achievements.

If Crosby is even worse next season, does Armstrong have the balls to drop Crosby out? Let's hope so.

If Crosby gets in, and significantly underperforms, will the coach have the balls to bench him, or put him in the press-box?
Ive never seen a poster be more clueless
 

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Last season + this season combined, Crosby is #33 in points among canadians. Between Tyler Bertuzzi and Alex Killorn.

This season alone, he is #34, behind guys like Verhaege, Barrie and Ritchie

Crosby is an offensive player. If he is not higher than that on points, he shouldn't be on the team.

It's becoming quite obvious that current level of play has nothing to do with people predicting he'll make Team Canada. It's all about past achievements.

If Crosby is even worse next season, does Armstrong have the balls to drop Crosby out? Let's hope so.

If Crosby gets in, and significantly underperforms, will the coach have the balls to bench him, or put him in the press-box?

Not sure if ignorant or trolling
 

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Lots of new talent for the US team. Many players are world-class, but it is necessary to determine which player will make the best team. I am building my USA team to beat that of Team Canada. I want players who will be able to have puck time, but ideally a lot of big bohome who are able to win 1v1 battles. I also want a team that matches the speed of Canada. I start with my lock on the offensive.

Patrick Kane is a lock, biggest offensive threat, time possession and ability to slow down the pace and generate goal. Jack Eichel and Auston Matthews are another lock with their great shooting ability and their skillset. I have three of the best Half-Board specialist in the league, better than the Canada at this position on the PP. Kane is a Lefty but I play him on the right side. Eichel and Matthews could play center. I want Kane to have the puck on the first line so I want a lefty center to play with, so I put Matthews with him(Lefty center passe often on the forehand to the right)

Matthews - Kane
Eichel


Now I want two force on the face-off, one R, one L. I want my center to be able to play at the end of the game. I bring Joe Pavelski for that and the leadership factor. Matthews is a good center, but I have more confidence with JT Miller for the defensive aspect of the game. I don't know yet where he play, but I want him on my team

1- Matthews - Kane
2- Eichel
3- Pavelski
4-
X Jt. Miller

I will bring Johnny Gaudreau to play with Eichel. Gaudreau drive the play, and with a R Center with a great shot, they will be a good combinaison. On the other hand, I find my top 6 small with kane and gaudreau to play against team canada, it could be that gaudreau becomes an extra. Who to play with Matthews and Kane? I'll go with Matthew Tkachuk. For me, he was the closest player to be a lock on this team. Special player, intense player, great ability and he will create space for Matthews and Kane

1- Tkachuk Matthews - Kane
2- Gaudreau - Eichel
3- Pavelski
4-
X Jt. Miller

At this point, I have to find the best player to play with Gaudreau and Eichel. Blake Wheeler fit here obviously, although I am a little upset by what we hear from him about his leadership. He has good quality of passing and an interesting size. At this point, I need more of sand paper with great skating. I want Brady Tkachuk who fit very well here, on the third line or the fourth

1- Tkachuk Matthews - Kane
2- Gaudreau - Eichel - Wheeler
3 - Pavelski - Tkachuk *
4- Tkachuk*
X Jt. Miller

I have to look at the status of my special units and my needs before continuing

On the PP I have Pavelski and Tkachuk who are special in net presence. Kane Gaudreau Matthews and Eichel are the best on the half board, so Miller and Wheeler can't play on the PP. I have no Bumper specialist, so I will use a 1st PP with Pavelski on the bumper and a goal line player , and I will bring a PP with no goal player.

PP 1
?
Matthews - Pavelski - Kane
D
I like this combinaison. The X play on the Kaner side. Pavelski as a R player will be a one time menace, and high tip menace on the bumper slot. We will try to isolate Matthews for the shoot and kane will control the PP. I need a player on the goal line

PP 2
Tkachuk
Gaudreau- X (Left Player) Eichel
D

Tkachuk on the screen. Gaudreau control the play, I need a lefty bumper. Eichel will shoot on the other side.

So I need a solid bumper player. Oshie is great but R. Debrincat can fil the hole but R. I take the ability to shot of Kyle Connor and I work with him to a be good in that hole. I still need a solid left player for my first PP, with great passing ability. Larkin,Pacioretty,Guentzel are option but they don't fill the profile I need, so I put JT Miller on the first PP

I don't want Connor on a fourth line , so I put him above Tkachuk on my roster. Tkachuk will play with J.T Miller, who go in on my roster because of the PP. I need two more RW's with two extra.

1- Tkachuk Matthews - Kane
2- Gaudreau - Eichel - Wheeler
3 - Connor - Pavelski -
4- Tkachuk - Miller - Tuch

My PK guys now.
Miller -
Pavelski -
Wheeler can play, both Tkachuk can play but if I can solidify PK, I will do that. Eichel is great on shootout, Kane too so I don't think is a need.

Boeser, Debrincat, Larkin,Guentzel,Pacioretty,Oshie,Kessel,Hughes,Rust, JVR,Hayes, Tuch, Lee, Keller, Batherson, Coleman are my consideration. Alex Tuch is R player, with great size and speed and it's a need on my team. I want him to play with Tkachuk and Miller on a great two-way line. I like this combinaison and they could turn into my third line in the tournament. I need another R player and I feel that T.J Oshie could bring something different on my team

1- Tkachuk Matthews - Kane
2- Gaudreau - Eichel - Wheeler
3 - Tkachuk - Miller - Tuch
4- Connor - Pavelski - Oshie

Extra are Larkin. Could replace Gaudreau on my top 6, and lot of speed. Guentzel the other one.

My defence lock is Jeff Petry, Carlson, Jones and McCavoy. The problem? 4 RDs. Petry is strong, reliable, great skater and great on relance. Jones lack of offense but great skating and reliable defenseman. Carlson great offensive instinct and McCavoy solid two-way game. I will check my LD and look for great combinaison

Hughes Krug Suter Werenski Slavin Schmidt Mcdonagh Hanifin Fox.

Slavin and Hughes are my top player. Slavin could be with a solid offensive defenseman or with another shutdown to play big minutes. Now who I want on my first PP unit? Hughes or Carlson? I choice Hughes. Who is the best fit to play with Hughes? I put him with the Seth Jones, and Slavin with Petry

Slavin - Petry
Hughes - Jones
McCavoy
Carlsson

I put Werenski with Karlsson and Krug with mccavoy .Helle and Gibson are my goalie


1- Tkachuk Matthews - Kane
2- Gaudreau - Eichel - Wheeler
3 - Tkachuk - Miller - Tuch
4- Connor - Pavelski - Oshie
Guentzel/Larkin

Slavin - Petry
Hughes - Jones
Krug - McCavoy
Werenski - Carlsson

Hellebuyck
Gibson

PP 1
Miller
Matthews - Pavelski - Kane
Hughes


PP 2
Tkachuk
Gaudreau- Connor - Eichel
Carlsson/Werenski

PK
Miller - Tuch
Pavelski - Tkachuk
Tkachuk - Wheeler


This the Canada thread?
 

nbwingsfan

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Well, as you can see, I'm right, the defense really has no arguments
Im wondering why youre using total points to say whos a better player. Do you think Tyler Betuzzi playing like 28 extra games may have something to do with him having similar points to Crosby?

He was FIFTH in PPG last season among Canadian players.

Now go away.
 
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Sidney the Kidney

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Last season + this season combined, Crosby is #33 in points among canadians. Between Tyler Bertuzzi and Alex Killorn.

This season alone, he is #34, behind guys like Verhaege, Barrie and Ritchie

Crosby is an offensive player. If he is not higher than that on points, he shouldn't be on the team.

It's becoming quite obvious that current level of play has nothing to do with people predicting he'll make Team Canada. It's all about past achievements.

If Crosby is even worse next season, does Armstrong have the balls to drop Crosby out? Let's hope so.

If Crosby gets in, and significantly underperforms, will the coach have the balls to bench him, or put him in the press-box?

This is a really bad take, ignores all context, and comes to conclusions that are ... questionable to put it politely.

I mean, aside from all the other nonsense in the post, the fact you compared Crosby's raw totals with players who played way more games than he did highlights the flaw in the entire premise.
 
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Matty Sundin

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Last season + this season combined, Crosby is #33 in points among canadians. Between Tyler Bertuzzi and Alex Killorn.

This season alone, he is #34, behind guys like Verhaege, Barrie and Ritchie

Crosby is an offensive player. If he is not higher than that on points, he shouldn't be on the team.

It's becoming quite obvious that current level of play has nothing to do with people predicting he'll make Team Canada. It's all about past achievements.

If Crosby is even worse next season, does Armstrong have the balls to drop Crosby out? Let's hope so.

If Crosby gets in, and significantly underperforms, will the coach have the balls to bench him, or put him in the press-box?

Only way crosby isn’t on the team is if he’s injured.
 

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Well, as you can see, I'm right, the defense really has no arguments
No you’re very wrong. You should just stay quiet. Silence.

Crosby will obviously make the team and will have a letter on his jersey.

I’m just glad Crosby intimidates you so much.

fixed my typo
 

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Last season + this season combined, Crosby is #33 in points among canadians. Between Tyler Bertuzzi and Alex Killorn.

This season alone, he is #34, behind guys like Verhaege, Barrie and Ritchie

Crosby is an offensive player. If he is not higher than that on points, he shouldn't be on the team.

It's becoming quite obvious that current level of play has nothing to do with people predicting he'll make Team Canada. It's all about past achievements.

If Crosby is even worse next season, does Armstrong have the balls to drop Crosby out? Let's hope so.

If Crosby gets in, and significantly underperforms, will the coach have the balls to bench him, or put him in the press-box?

Armstrong would have no players if he didn't have Crosby on the team. No Canadian player would play on a team that willingly excluded Crosby, unless he SEVERLY dropped off in play. Even then I'm saying he's probably missing a leg. Not only is he on this team but he is 150% the Captain.
 

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USA is pretty close to surpassing Canada. It's not because Canada fell off a cliff, but rather USA meeting at the top.
 

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Last season + this season combined, Crosby is #33 in points among canadians. Between Tyler Bertuzzi and Alex Killorn.

This season alone, he is #34, behind guys like Verhaege, Barrie and Ritchie

Crosby is an offensive player. If he is not higher than that on points, he shouldn't be on the team.

It's becoming quite obvious that current level of play has nothing to do with people predicting he'll make Team Canada. It's all about past achievements.

If Crosby is even worse next season, does Armstrong have the balls to drop Crosby out? Let's hope so.

If Crosby gets in, and significantly underperforms, will the coach have the balls to bench him, or put him in the press-box?

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So...is he on the team now?
 

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