I'm almost 100% certain that the issues with Stamkos is that he feels the need to be an "all around player". I mean thats not a bad thing but its not what makes him a threat. He needs to be completely focused on shooting and scoring goals and playing selfish. I know that sounds wrong but what makes him dangerous is when he is shooting. Maybe its because he's the captain and feels like he needs to be that all around type of guy or maybe its a coaching thing (probably a mix of both) but I really just want to seem him play selfishly when he's out there. We saw glimpses of it in round 3 vs the caps and this is why i'm almost convinced that its a mental thing or coaching thing with him. We've seen that he can still be the "old stammer" when he wants to, now its just a matter of getting him into that mentality 24/7.
Confirmed with Link: [TBL/NYR] Namestnikov, Howden, Hajek, 1st rd pk, con. 2nd for J.T. Miller & Ryan McDonagh
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if its yzermans burner account wouldn't yzerman be the one running it?
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Howden made the NYR final roster. He beat out 2017 #7OA Lias Anderson who got sent to AHL. That probably says more about the NYR depth than Howden, but good for him. Hajek had a good camp but got sent down. Also, DeAngelo made the final cut.
Makes sense. I think Howden winds up their best piece from that trade. Not sure how he'll do in his rookie year, but I wouldn't be shocked if he outscores Namestnikov.
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Some Ottawa fan was trying to tell me that most of the pieces in the Karlsson trade were better than Howden and Hajek.
The only loss with Howden is his size, neither Cirelli and Stephens have that who are the two guys he'd be competing with for 3/4C job the next few years. Cirelli kinda fits our lineup better because he's faster and a better skater to play the style Cooper wants. Stephens plays a heavy game that Howden doesn't even play, Howden is bigger and uses his size well but isn't a grinder so wouldn't work as well if he had to be on the 4th line. With non 1st rounders like Cirelli, Volkov, Joseph, Raddysh and Katchouk looking all NHL quality we had the depth to move a forward prospect and not be hurt going forward.
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lol the rangers got a better deal then ottawa got for karlsson. rangers got more for mcd and miller !
Cirelli takes some of the sting off of the loss of Howden, but I think some of you are forgetting what a boon it is to have a scoring line center with size and faceoff winning ability. None of the other guys you mentioned have those special combination of skills...although Howden may not make it as scoring liner.
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He would still be years away from being a top-six player with us, if ever. Nobody's cracking our t6 centers for a while.
I agree with both of you, I was making a nuanced point about the state of our faceoff abilities and the size of our centers, not on the likelihood of Howden in particular making an immediate difference.
I don't know that size and faceoffs are all that related though. I think Point is going to wind up our faceoff specialist over time. Seems like a kid driven to be good at absolutely everything.
From there we have Johnson, who may or may not play out his contract with us, Cirelli, and Paquette, for NHL centers. It'll be interesting to see if we go out of our way to load up on centers with size in the 2019 draft though. Seems like every year, at least with Yzerman, we'd lean toward one player type/position, and go there if all else was equal.
