Proposal: TB/MTL: Domi and Gourde?

Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by BobbyShehan, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:31 AM.

  1. MasterMatt25

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    DomBoltsFan is a great dude. Talked about prospects with him before
     
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    He takes so much abuse and just shrugs it off. He's a really good dude. lol
     
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    The same basis is used in MLB, it's based on $/WAR it's a very simple basis. If you are really good the system says you should be paid a ton.
     
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    The model isn't flawed at all, it looks at what stats it can and compares to the replacement level and argues from there. The more stats available the better your argument will be. NHL salaries are relatively low for stars compared to other sports and the stats to determine who is the best are constantly improving. The more data the more accurate it will be.
     
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    A lot of his more outlandish opinions came when he was about 14 or 15.
     
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    You will find that every Hab fans doesn't want the overrated French Canadian who had one good year .
    Reading the thread before making trolling/stupid post might be a good idea.
     
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    That's good because Gourde as the Center piece to get Domi is a joke.
     
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    There is obviously a lineup of GMs ready to strip tje Habs of their best players....atleast in tje eyes of their fans.

    I don't lke Bbinz, but one thing is for sure, he's not trading any players until it makes sense and is of equal value.

    Basically, it just a foamimg tooth paste war of "mine is better then yours".
     
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    Considering the term/$/performance and the Bolts cap situation Gourde is in Marleau territory for a return
     
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    Do you think maybe the statistical model your friend made is .... not quite working?
     
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    Of course not. That requires self reflection.
     
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    Nahh, apparently these days you just create whatever model makes the most sense theoretically and it doesn't matter if it lines up with common sense or reality
     
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    You are clearly the delusional one.

    In the same post you claim that Vancouvers pick, which is projecting to be somewhere from 20th-26th gets you a guy who was drafted 13th overall and is pacing for 50-55pts as a center in his D+2 rookie season. And you claim that a guy who is almost a point per game winger (this season) and a 20+ goal scorer 6 years straight, who's salary can be retained and can be had at 2.65m for this season AND next, can't even get a late first round pick. Despite the fact that every season an average of 5 or 6 first rounders are traded, usually for inferior players. Clearly delusional.
     
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    Yes, this model that puts a decent team's combined deserved salary value at 300 million is totally valid
     
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    Petry is way better than Shattenkirk. As always your hot takes on player values are hilarious
     
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    So someone is going to trade you a player just as good as Domi on a cheap contract so they have to pay him more? I don’t see that making sense
     
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    My god, reading everything that guy said was painful
     
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    Lol yeah. I actually blocked him. There’s only so much you can bang your head against a brick wall.
     
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    I just came up with a statistical model that says Alzner is overpaid by 3.6 million.
     
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    Someone would have to be delusional to even think that Groude is as good as Domi.
     
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    Petry would be probably the most desired player from TB's standpoint but i don't think they have the assets to acquire him.
     
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    We don't have the expendable assets, and we don't have the cap space to take on additional years. Any player Tampa looks at has to be a UFA, unless one of Gourde or Johnson go the other way, which isn't going to happen.
     
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    Killorn could be a trade piece.
     
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    Would prefer to keep him for the playoffs. Ideally Gourde or Johnson can go first, easier to replace them within our system.

    Killorn most likely will be gone around the draft. Just money casualty.
     

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