Proposal: TB/MTL: Domi and Gourde?

[Qwijibo]

domi is very good but so is gourde i wouldnt add too much to gourde to get domi especially with his upcoming RFA and hes likely gonna be paid 7+m per year making it hard to afford cirelli and sergachev

Domi is significantly better than Gourde. That said, you’re right about Domi not fitting into Tampa’s salary structure. It’s not a trade that makes sense for either team

 

[MisterT]

Domi will still be an RFA and is a good 2 mil below Gourde's cap hit. Mtl can definitely afford to give Max a big raise. Doubt they want to. They can easily absorb Gourde's salary for the next 2-3 years if they get some good pieces in return.

I hate the Habs but this garbage you are trying to spread is best left at the curb. Perhaps TB can get Montreal to take Gourde but it will take a huge plus for a return of a late conditional pick. Domi does not belong in this conversation.

 

[Qwijibo]

I think we are looking at Kovalchuck. I dont think Tatar or Domi make sense for the Lightning.​

That seems like the most likely scenario. Kovalchuk is cheap and could be had for a pick (if he decides not to re-sign with Montreal)

 

[Habs Halifax]

Because they wouldn't want to give Domi the contract he wants... So get a talented winger, albeit overpaid (which they can afford) and a few other pieces. Draft's in Mtl this year.

Just cause Domi might ask for more than what we are willing to give him, it don't mean we should trade him for cheap. If I'm trading Domi, it's for a equal talent close to his age and team control but a top 4D. We don't need a Gourde type on our roster.

Domi > Gourde

I counter with Domi for Sergachev

 

[Hint1k]

I think we are looking at Kovalchuck. I dont think Tatar or Domi make sense for the Lightning.​

Kovalchuk is a top6 guy. He is useless in bottom 6. We could have used Kovy last year instead of injured Palat. Right now Palat is healthy, so Kovalchuk does not really have a place in our top6.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Domi is significantly better than Gourde. That said, you’re right about Domi not fitting into Tampa’s salary structure. It’s not a trade that makes sense for either team

domi is significantly better offensively but the defensive gap is similarly large in favor of gourde

 

[Habs Halifax]

I hate the Habs but this garbage you are trying to spread is best left at the curb. Perhaps TB can get Montreal to take Gourde but it will take a huge plus for a return of a late conditional pick. Domi does not belong in this conversation.

Thank you from the Habs. Not many do this for us and usually jump on the other side saying we overvalue our assets all the time.

Domi for Gourde is like Danault for Point or Mete for Sergachev. Maybe a little exaggeration but you get the point.

 

[Habs Halifax]

domi is significantly better offensively but the defensive gap is similarly large in favor of gourde

Does that mean Danault = Point then? Cause Danault is better defensively? See how bad that sounds

Gourde is a good forward yes. But no way he gets you an asset like Domi. Try another team please.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Tampa would be better to acquire him in the off season as he plays well for 1 year, then sulks.

They're probably looking at Petry,or Tatar.

 

[Qwijibo]

Tampa would be better to acquire him in the off season as he plays well for 1 year, then sulks.

They're probably looking at Petry,or Tatar.

If you don’t like the price of Domi or Tatar you’re gonna hate what it would take to get Petry. Lol

 

[Habs Halifax]

Tampa would be better to acquire him in the off season as he plays well for 1 year, then sulks.

They're probably looking at Petry,or Tatar.

Probably Petry cause they need a RD. But doubt they will pay the required price to pry him away from Montreal. It will take a 1st and a grade A prospect at least. Doubt that happens. Don't call us telling us he is not that good or not worth that. It won't work. You want him, you pay what we would want to give him up.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Kovalchuk is a top6 guy. He is useless in bottom 6. We could have used Kovy last year instead of injured Palat. Right now Palat is healthy, so Kovalchuk does not really have a place in our top6.

Bump johnson down to the 3rd line.

Stamkos Point Kucherov
Palat Cirelli Kovalchuck
Killorn Johnson Gourde
Verhaeghe Paquette Maroon

 

[Habs Halifax]

Bump johnson down to the 3rd line.

Stamkos Point Kucherov
Palat Cirelli Kovalchuck
Killorn Johnson Gourde
Verhaeghe Paquette Maroon

Best 2nd round pick gets Kovalchuk. Tampa's 2nd will be 55-62 range and probably 59-62. If a team in the 10-16 spot offers their 2nd, Tampa will have to offer more.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Does that mean Danault = Point then? Cause Danault is better defensively? See how bad that sounds

Gourde is a good forward yes. But no way he gets you an asset like Domi. Try another team please.

danault is actually not that far from point (hes a top 10 C imo), but point isnt a defensive liability the way domi is so point is still better overall since point is >>> danault offensively and danault>>point defensively.

 

[waitin425]

I have no interest in the Habs acquiring Gourde. Seems like his contract is a bit of an anchor for a player of his quality. If Tampa had scouts there, it's likely for Kovy or Petry. Let's do Petry for Cal Foote and a 1st

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Bump johnson down to the 3rd line.

Stamkos Point Kucherov
Palat Cirelli Kovalchuck
Killorn Johnson Gourde
Verhaeghe Paquette Maroon

i dont want kovalsuck

 

[VoluntaryDom]

I have no interest in the Habs acquiring Gourde. Seems like his contract is a bit of an anchor for a player of his quality. If Tampa had scouts there, it's likely for Kovy or Petry. Let's do Petry for Cal Foote and a 1st

why would we do that we have 7 capable dmen and petry isnt that much better than shattenkirk not at the price of our top prospect and a 1st

 

[Habs Halifax]

danault is actually not that far from point (hes a top 10 C imo), but point isnt a defensive liability the way domi is so point is still better overall since point is >>> danault offensively and danault>>point defensively.

Domi still has more value than Gourde even after you factor in their complete games (strengths and flaws). No way the Habs make that trade and you can try to add a spare part on top of Gourde all you want. Still won't work.

Domi for Sergachev might work.
or

Domi, Mete, Kovalchuk
for
Sergachev, 1st, and cap dump (Condon)

 

[Hint1k]

Domi for Sergachev might work.
or
Domi, Mete, Kovalchuk
for
Sergachev, 1st, and cap dump (Condon)

It is not a fantasy forum. It's a trade forum. Tampa is not going to trade Sergachev or Foote bothers. Even Gourde is unlikely scenario. Tampa may trade 2nd rate prospects and picks. Simply because Tampa has two goals 1) current playoff run 2) keep the roster under the cap space and keep it competitive for the next runs. Trades you suggesting contradict both goals.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Domi still has more value than Gourde even after you factor in their complete games (strengths and flaws). No way the Habs make that trade and you can try to add a spare part on top of Gourde all you want. Still won't work.

Domi for Sergachev might work.
or

Domi, Mete, Kovalchuk
for
Sergachev, 1st, and cap dump (Condon)

id probably do those other trades actually, especially the second one as i am high on mete (id rather have someone other than kovy though). also as i said i dont want to do gourde+ for domi.

 

[Anatol Trottier]

My guess they are looking for Gallagher. Small cap hit 3,9 for next year.

 

[Habs Halifax]

It is not a fantasy forum. It's a trade forum. Tampa is not going to trade Sergachev or Foote bothers. Even Gourde is unlikely scenario. Tampa may trade 2nd rate prospects and picks. Simply because Tampa has two goals 1) current playoff run 2) keep the roster under the cap space and keep it competitive for the next runs. Trades you suggesting contradict both goals.

2nd rate prospects won't get you any of our pieces. Maybe you can get pieces like Thompson or Scandella types.

Hard to make both sides happy. You can call it a fantasy all you want. Gourde for Domi is also a fantasy dream for the Lightning

 

[Habs Halifax]

id probably do those other trades actually, especially the second one as i am high on mete (id rather have someone other than kovy though). also as i said i dont want to do gourde+ for domi.

I think the Gourde+ for Domi trade won't work for both sides. We agree.

The other proposals are just a shot in the dark. We can tinker with that if we feel we are close to making both sides happy

 

[Vijo Morganstein]

danault is actually not that far from point (hes a top 10 C imo), but point isnt a defensive liability the way domi is so point is still better overall since point is >>> danault offensively and danault>>point defensively.

@Mrb1p would you agree with this assessment?

 

[Hint1k]

2nd rate prospects won't get you any of our pieces. Maybe you can get pieces like Thompson or Scandella types.

Hard to make both sides happy. You can call it a fantasy all you want. Gourde for Domi is also a fantasy dream for the Lightning

Who said we want anything from Montreal? We can't afford guys we maybe interested in (Petry, Tatar). We are not that much interesting in guys we can afford (Kovalchuk). This scout news may mean nothing really.