Taylor Hall has 1 goal in 19 games

[FMichael]

This why you go for the long term deal when you have the chance. A lot can go wrong when you sign a 1 year deal, Hall being the most recent example. Unless he gets moved to a playoff team & has a great run, his value has tanked and he's probably lost quite a bit of money on his next deal.

And with him approaching 30 - not many GMs will be looking to hand him anything more than 3, or 4 seasons.

 

[FMichael]

I just don't think any team can win when they need to rely on unconfident players who have no faith in their abilities.

How many men would be confident if they had 2 last names like a woman?

 

[Grub]

Can't believe Taylor Hall is already 29 years old now and into to the regression years.

He was only 22 when Jim Benning got hired.

 

[tictactoe]

Must be goal of the year?

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

He bet on himself and the Sabres and appears to have lost on both counts. Logic dictates that he has cost himself a ton of money but never count out NHL GMs, even in this economic climate from throwing out ridiculous $$$/term for a guy like Hall. I don't hate the player. He's been productive overall when healthy but there's a lot of risk.

Death, taxes and GMs overpaying for name recognition players like Hall

 

[Herby]

3 years ago, crazy

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Yup, pretty crazy. The Matt Ryan of the NHL.

Will be weird to look back 20-30 years and realize he beat out two HOF players for the award that year, plus a bunch of other HOF'ers who weren't finalists.

 

[MNRube]

Hall is #1 in goals scored below expectation this year.

Eichel and Skinner are both top-10 too.

The chances have been there (don't get me wrong, they are performing below expectation too), but the lack of finish has been incredible.

Always something new with this team. Cursed team.

Squeezing the sticks a bit too hard and overthinking it. A coaching change makes a lot of sense

 

[Sabre the Win]

Why does everyone’s potential die in Buffalo.

We haven't hired a proven coach since Bylsma who had us respectfully at an 82 point season after drafting Eichel, then he followed it up with an 78 point season and he got fired (which is where Eichel got the coach killer nickname) and its been all downhill with first time unproven coaches since.

Management has killed us, the Pegula's have made horrible hire after hire at GM and each GM has hired unproven new coaches one after the other.

 

[BruinsBtn]

Hall is an immense talent... but why do all of the teams he goes to, suddenly suck? Does he have the worst luck in the world, or is a big contributor to the problem? How many times has he been part of a team getting first overall? I mean, Sabres must be thrilled with the idea of them getting Power.. but they have to keep him, and not trade him at deadline for that to work.

He won two Memorial Cups in junior. He knows how to win but not in the NHL, it seems.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Based on the article, I imagine you also want to get rid of RNH asap?

I was thinking about this a bit more.

I think I have a better framing of my Nuge connundrum.

Nuge was always considered an inferior player to Matt Duchene. Nuge never hit the career highs that Duchene did.

Nuge is only 2 years younger than 'the Douche', and is safe to say will face an equal or worse decline into his 30's.


So..

Knowing what we know of Duchene's current level of play, and his career trajectory, how much do you think he would be worth at his current contract (I think he's below $4m AAV).

I think Nuge should be paid less than that on a shorter term

 

[Perennial]

It's safe to say the Sabres are regretting this decision. ya think?!

Why would they? What else were they going to do with the cap space?

They can retain 50% on Hall's expiring contract and get a decent return of picks/prospects at the deadline

 

[Thrasymachus]

Why would they? What else were they going to do with the cap space?

They can retain 50% on Hall's expiring contract and get a decent return of picks/prospects at the deadline

Yeah they still essentially get free assets for nothing

But you have to think that they were hoping for a little more... at this rate they won't even get a 1st for salary retained

 

[rt]

I'm a Coyotes fan and I love Taylor Hall. I hope he's willing to re-sign in Arizona this summer. The Buffalo gamble seems not to be paying off. Maybe he'll reconsider Phoenix. I'd be thrilled if he came back, regardless of the hate he's getting in this thread.

 

[Mulletman]

It's 20 games now and only 1 goal. And what's worse the goal was scored in Buffalo's first game so it's 19 games in a row without a goal for Hall. And his first goal wasn't all that impressive either as it was a fluke goal on the powrplay:

This is also Hall's longest goalless streak of his career as his previous record was 11 games. The last time Hall scored twice in a game was January 14th 2020 and we have to go back to 2018 before we find his next 2 goal game. And what's even crazier is the fact that Hall's last hattrick was March 30th 2013, almost 8 years ago. I think it's safe to say that we've seen the best of Taylor Hall and he's in full regression nowadays...

 

[CokenoPepsi]

Hall should still get a fairly large deal in the offseason.

But with the escrow and even more clawbacks by owners man will it hurt

 

[rodney dangerfield]

shouldve signed a 1 year deal with a contender. everything had to go right for it to work in buffalo and predictably its gone all wrong. the sabres used kruger as a way to sway hall and he fell for it. the dude has never had a winning season as an nhl coach. what was hall thinking? was he desperate? did no other teams offer 1x8m or something close?

 

[torniojaws]

Poof-alo

 

[who_me?]

How many men would be confident if they had 2 last names like a woman?

And fish lips like a woman.

 

[Phil McKraken]

Hall is an immense talent... but why do all of the teams he goes to, suddenly suck? Does he have the worst luck in the world, or is a big contributor to the problem?

None of Edmonton, NJ, Arizona or Buffalo were good teams when he arrived.

 

[traparatus]

None of Edmonton, NJ, Arizona or Buffalo were good teams when he arrived.

That was my first thought when I read the post. Buffalo has 'suddenly' sucked for about a decade. All in all, that's one seriously sucky bunch of teams.

Why does Hall keep going to these teams? Sign for $4m to play on the 2nd line for a decent contender. Have a bit of fun and enjoy the game.

Buffalo really has to get rid of their coach. That's a better roster than they've shown so far. They are a great example of why management shouldn't be be so hasty to fire coaches in the early stages of a rebuild. There are only so many times that you can fire a coach before the pressure on players is just too much. If you are rebuilding and your roster sucks, let it suck with whatever coach you have in place. Fire him when you are ready to contend. Looking at you, Detroit fans...

 

[WATTAGE4451]

Hall is an immense talent... but why do all of the teams he goes to, suddenly suck? Does he have the worst luck in the world, or is a big contributor to the problem? How many times has he been part of a team getting first overall? I mean, Sabres must be thrilled with the idea of them getting Power.. but they have to keep him, and not trade him at deadline for that to work.

I wouldnt say that the oilers or the sabres "suddenly sucked". Both were bad for quite a few years prior to him joining those teams.

 

[ItWasJustified]

I'm a Coyotes fan and I love Taylor Hall. I hope he's willing to re-sign in Arizona this summer. The Buffalo gamble seems not to be paying off. Maybe he'll reconsider Phoenix. I'd be thrilled if he came back, regardless of the hate he's getting in this thread.

Out of the frying pan into the fire.

 

[Sky04]

He had his pick of the litter this year and chose Buffalo...

 

[authentic]

He won two Memorial Cups in junior. He knows how to win but not in the NHL, it seems.

Might have something to do with the teams he has played for. Just a hunch lol

 

[rt]

He had his pick of the litter this year and chose Buffalo...

People have short memories.
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