Value of: Tavares' UFA Rights at the Draft

[Harvey Birdman]

No, it definately is a possibility.

Or maybe i'm wrong

No only way he can get an 8th year is if the Islanders signed him to it prior to official free agency. You have to be on a teams roster from the prior trade deadline to get the 8th year. Any UFA team or if he were traded unsigned to a team the max is 7 years.

 

[habsgirl5000]

If Tavares wants 8 years and have 3-4 teams he is interested in signing with, there will be a bidding war between those 4 teams for his right. I say it could go as far as a 2019 1st. And as a Habs fan, i would easily do it.

thank God you are not our GM.....you would get us in more trouble then MB already has!!

 

[seabass45]

No only way he can get an 8th year is if the Islanders signed him to it prior to official free agency. You have to be on a teams roster from the prior trade deadline to get the 8th year. Any UFA team or if he were traded unsigned to a team the max is 7 years.

Huh. I didn't know that.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

I don't think NYI would get anything juicy. If they're even at the point where they're looking to trade his UFA rights, it'll be a disaster.

Moving him for a couple of conditional picks would be a double slap in the face to Islanders fans. From a PR standpoint, it may be best for NYI to do everything they can to sign him, even if that means ultimately letting him walk for nothing.

 

[Prairie Habs]

I'd give a 4th that turns into a 2nd if he signs. People talking about 1st rounders are crazy.

 

[SI90]

A 3rd or a 4th round pick. Maybe make it conditional if he signs. Idk. Who cares.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Wrong.

If Tavares wants 8 years and have 3-4 teams he is interested in signing with, there will be a bidding war between those 4 teams for his right. I say it could go as far as a 2019 1st. And as a Habs fan, i would easily do it.

Not sure if another team other than the islanders can give him 8 years.

Regardless, do you really think Tavares will want his future team to give up a good asset (like a 1st rounder) just so he can get an extra year on his deal?

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

If he makes it clear after the season ends that he's leaving, what could the Isles get for his UFA rights?

I don't think it gets much. If he is leaving the NYI, it's to test free agency. So the team acquiring him would be in the same situation.

 

[TK 421]

WPG 1st from STL for JT’s rights?

If he doesn’t sign, STL gets NYI 2nd in 2020

I could see Doug offering that. He's looking to use that pick as currency in a trade anyway so why not use it to land the biggest fish.

 

[stl76]

I don't think NYI would get anything juicy. If they're even at the point where they're looking to trade his UFA rights, it'll be a disaster.

Moving him for a couple of conditional picks would be a double slap in the face to Islanders fans. From a PR standpoint, it may be best for NYI to do everything they can to sign him, even if that means ultimately letting him walk for nothing.

Completely disagree. It would be a PR disaster if JT leaves no matter what the return is. It's not like getting a conditional 2nd would make the PR situation significantly better or worse...it would be really bad regardless. May as well get something for his rights if he decides to leave IMO.

 

[steveat]

IF the scenario is trade and sign or sign and trade then the deal will involve MORE than just a first coming back to the Isles.

 

[AndreRoy]

IF the scenario is trade and sign or sign and trade then the deal will involve MORE than just a first coming back to the Isles.

Not necessarily. If he’s not going to resign with the Isles then he either signs with the team of his choice for seven years or does a sign and trade to the team of his choice for eight years. The Isles have zero leverage in terms of being able to keep him from going or even in determining where he goes, so it simply comes down to how much that team is willing to pay for an eighth year versus how little the Isles are willing to accept to give it to them.

And how much do you think a team is going to be willing to pay for the season when Tavares will be 35yo? Will he even still be worth the AAV of his next deal at that point, or might they possibly be better off simply signing him for seven years and then giving him what would almost certainly be a cheaper extension if they want to keep him around at that time? I don’t see a team overpaying just to give him that eighth year.

 

[BLONG7]

Look for Marc Bergevin to do something stupid...it's gonna happen. He will not wait until July 1st...

 

[Jumptheshark]

A 5th. That's the price for most pending ufa's.

That is the standard right now

 

[LeapOnOver]

I'd say there is almost 0% of a sign and trade. Most we'd probably get for early negotiating rights is a 2nd round pick.

 

[Stephen]

If I'm running the Leafs, I wouldn't waste time on a sign and trade or trade for his UFA rights: I basically don't want to sign Tavares at 8 years anyway and would be content to pitch him for a max. of 7 if he hit the open market.

 

[Benstheman]

thank God you are not our GM.....you would get us in more trouble then MB already has!!

Why?? You get one of the best center in the league for 8 years...

 

[Benstheman]

No only way he can get an 8th year is if the Islanders signed him to it prior to official free agency. You have to be on a teams roster from the prior trade deadline to get the 8th year. Any UFA team or if he were traded unsigned to a team the max is 7 years.

Ok thanks. I didn't know that.

 

[Benstheman]

Not sure if another team other than the islanders can give him 8 years.

Regardless, do you really think Tavares will want his future team to give up a good asset (like a 1st rounder) just so he can get an extra year on his deal?

For the former sentence, you are right. But the idea would obviously be in a sign and trade scenario, where Islanders don't want to lose JT for nothing and the other team wants him for 8 years. They would ask JT where he wants to sign is next contract and everyone is happy.

For the latter, considering the move is awin now mode move for the team acquiring him, i don't think the player care very much for the assets going the other way, unless it is an important actual core player.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Gotta think that both the Isles and JT's party want a decision to be met by June 15th.

The Isles have dealt with things to date as if they're confident that JT will be re-signing. All logic begs to differ, but Tavares has never seemed to be the type who'd leave the team completely hanging and just go on the free market without giving Snow and co. an opportunity to make something of the situation.

In any case, I suspect that if Tavares can't be signed by June 15th, the Isles will get at least a conditional 1st rounder this or next summer for his negotiation rights - and likely from a team that Brisson feels is a good spot for Tavares to continue his career.

 

[LetsGoIslanders]

A first round pick with no conditions. A third (18/19/20) and a fifth (18/19/20) with conditions that he signs with the team that made the trade. If you're trading 2020 draft choices, you're also giving a fourth and seven round pick

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

My 2 cents is if Snow played his cards right he might be able to get a lottery protected 2019 first round pick for a team who is making that extra push offering an 8th year

Lmao your two cents is fake, he isnt getting a 1st back for his rights lmfao

 

[BlueBaron]

Thing about all this speculation is for all we know he has already made up his mind, does not care about an 8th year, and would not want to hurt his new club by costing them an asset.

The Habs trading for his rights seems very risky, STL and SJ have reasonable positions I guess but this is one of those cases where he probably already knows where he wants to go and so there is no point in trading for his rights, you'll either get him or you won't.