Tarasenko to have 3rd shoulder surgery

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Stick a fork in him, dude's done. I love Vladi but it's best for the Blues to move on from him at this point. Glad he was able to play a big role in delivering us our first cup. I'll always remember that penalty shot against the Sharks fondly.
 

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Jets fan dropping over to give my best wishes to Vlad and I hope for a full recovery. He is a rival but I have always been entertained by his talent and have enjoyed watching the battles over the seasons.

Really hoping he makes it back.

I read "Jets fan Dropping" and I instantly looked to see if your names was Tnt ... lol it is only after that when I finished the rest of the post :)
 
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I'm really worried that Tank's best days may be behind him. I'm not ready to put him out to pasture yet, but he'll be past prime age when he returns post multiple surgeries on the very thing that made him so lethal. I think DA would definitely have to consider offers that he never would have given the time of day to a couple of years ago if they are offered.
 

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I AM NOT WORRIED. IN ARMY, STILLMAN AND CHIEF I TRUST.

We made the moves, got ROR and WON the DAMN Cup. This ain't the same old Blues and yeah, 91 is having another surgery and he will be fine. Just because he might not be the impact player he was/could have been/whatever doesn't mean he's going to slow down, he'll change a bit and he'll get out there with fire because he'll have something to prove with everyone crying that his career is over, he won't be same, whatever. This team and these boys have proven us wrong, take heed.

Pie will remain a Blue. We will clear coin and make moves, Husso is damn near going to be our backup/tandem, a few will go, we'll sign a few others and hit the next season with a vengeance. The curtain for a change is wide open with a Cup at our feet, time to plan and get us a second one. F-K COVID, F-K the hates and let's go Blues!!
 

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What would happen to our cap hit if Tarasenko was forced to retire?

Nevermind, I read into it. Due to him being under 35 the contract would basically be voided/LTIR.
 

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I AM NOT WORRIED. IN ARMY, STILLMAN AND CHIEF I TRUST.

We made the moves, got ROR and WON the DAMN Cup. This ain't the same old Blues and yeah, 91 is having another surgery and he will be fine. Just because he might not be the impact player he was/could have been/whatever doesn't mean he's going to slow down, he'll change a bit and he'll get out there with fire because he'll have something to prove with everyone crying that his career is over, he won't be same, whatever. This team and these boys have proven us wrong, take heed.

Pie will remain a Blue. We will clear coin and make moves, Husso is damn near going to be our backup/tandem, a few will go, we'll sign a few others and hit the next season with a vengeance. The curtain for a change is wide open with a Cup at our feet, time to plan and get us a second one. F-K COVID, F-K the hates and let's go Blues!!

Yes!
The Blues are kind of like Seabiscuit lol
 

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That's good to hear. I still have doubts about his effectiveness moving forward, but I'll be rooting for him the whole way.
 

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Anybody else find it interesting that he didn't have it done here?

STL has some great healthcare, but I am not sure if orthopedic surgeons + rehab is one of them.

I hope he went to the best surgeon in the world. I would be surprised if that were the team medical staff.

Do we know did his last surgery? I haven't been able to find anything specific other than this interview with Dr. Lehman, but I don't think that's who did it. Although this does provide some interesting insight into the injury, according to this doctor he had up to a 30% chance it would come out again.

Well-known orthopedic surgeon analyzes Tarasenko’s shoulder dislocation | FOX 2
 

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Do we know did his last surgery? I haven't been able to find anything specific other than this interview with Dr. Lehman, but I don't think that's who did it. Although this does provide some interesting insight into the injury, according to this doctor he had up to a 30% chance it would come out again.

Well-known orthopedic surgeon analyzes Tarasenko’s shoulder dislocation | FOX 2

It's typical for Rick Lehman to refer out for specialist work, he wouldn't be doing those sx's.
 
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Do we know did his last surgery? I haven't been able to find anything specific other than this interview with Dr. Lehman, but I don't think that's who did it. Although this does provide some interesting insight into the injury, according to this doctor he had up to a 30% chance it would come out again.

Well-known orthopedic surgeon analyzes Tarasenko’s shoulder dislocation | FOX 2
If the odds went from 8%-10% after the first surgery to 25%-30% after the second, that doesn’t inspire much confidence in the prognosis after a 3rd surgery given that he was on the wrong side of the odds the first two times. At some point you have to be concerned about life after hockey not just will he play again.
 
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If the odds went from 8%-10% after the first surgery to 25%-30% after the second, that doesn’t inspire much confidence in the prognosis after a 3rd surgery given that he was on the wrong side of the odds the first two times. At some point you have to be concerned about life after hockey not just will he play again.

I think he'll play again just because he loves the game so much, and yeah that may well have an effect on him further down the line. I do think it is sadly safe to say that the guy we saw who could score 40 goals is not the guy we will have going forward.
 

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If the odds went from 8%-10% after the first surgery to 25%-30% after the second, that doesn’t inspire much confidence in the prognosis after a 3rd surgery given that he was on the wrong side of the odds the first two times. At some point you have to be concerned about life after hockey not just will he play again.

I think he'll play again just because he loves the game so much, and yeah that may well have an effect on him further down the line. I do think it is sadly safe to say that the guy we saw who could score 40 goals is not the guy we will have going forward.

I think he'll continue playing, but I agree I wouldn't project him in that 40 goal ballpark. I'm setting my expectations for the 20-25 range and if he beats he beats it, and I'll happy being wrong. The other part of that article that concerns me along with the percentage chance of re-injuring is the next few quotes:

“If it’s easy to come out, it’s easy to come out. And so, what makes you think it’s not going to come out again,” Lehman said.
Lehman says the injury is not career-threatening but he thinks it could affect Tarasenko’s future.

“He can come back and he can be a very, very good player. Can he be the same player before his dislocations? That’s hard because you lose a little bit of range of motion, you lose a little bit of strength,” he said.

That's the quote talking about after 2, so it doesn't bode well for after a 3rd surgery. I'm a huge Vladi fan so if we can have a 20-25 goal healthy Tarasenko, I will happily take that over no Tarasenko. But then there's realistically a conversation of whether a reduced effectiveness, post triple surgery, high priced Tarasenko is worth having. I almost could see a Fabbri like situation (and I realize he has an NTC) where he comes back but isn't utilized as much and eventually traded to a team either trying to meet salary floor or willing to add him to their rebuild.
 

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I think he'll continue playing, but I agree I wouldn't project him in that 40 goal ballpark. I'm setting my expectations for the 20-25 range and if he beats he beats it, and I'll happy being wrong. The other part of that article that concerns me along with the percentage chance of re-injuring is the next few quotes:



That's the quote talking about after 2, so it doesn't bode well for after a 3rd surgery. I'm a huge Vladi fan so if we can have a 20-25 goal healthy Tarasenko, I will happily take that over no Tarasenko. But then there's realistically a conversation of whether a reduced effectiveness, post triple surgery, high priced Tarasenko is worth having. I almost could see a Fabbri like situation (and I realize he has an NTC) where he comes back but isn't utilized as much and eventually traded to a team either trying to meet salary floor or willing to add him to their rebuild.
Yeah, he won’t be worth it.

Tarasenko is making $7.5 million per year. And he’s only worth that if he’s hitting 35+ goals. Anything in the 20’s and that’s too expensive because he doesn’t offer anything in terms of defense or other parts of the game.

Therefore it’s very possible we let him go at the time his contract expires. Schenn’s contract is already going to be our future boat anchor. Even if he takes a discount, I’m not likely to be willing to go long-term with Tarasenko, when he will already be 31 heading into UFA. But at least we know this now instead of his shoulder f***ing up after we just extended him through age 38 lol.
 
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Yeah, he won’t be worth it.

Tarasenko is making $7.5 million per year. And he’s only worth that if he’s hitting 35+ goals. Anything in the 20’s and that’s too expensive because he doesn’t offer anything in terms of defense or other parts of the game.

Therefore it’s very possible we let him go at the time his contract expires. Schenn’s contract is already going to be our future boat anchor. Even if he takes a discount, I’m not likely to be willing to go long-term with Tarasenko, when he will already be 31 heading into UFA. But at least we know this now instead of his shoulder f***ing up after we just extended him through age 38 lol.
Nooo. I don't want to hear that now! :tmi:
But unfortunately you're right.
 

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Ever since Hull left when I was 8, I've been waiting for the Blues to get a true sniper. For a few years there, we had one. Tarasenko was an incredible player and, even though he didn't set the world on fire in our cup run, I can't imagine we hoist that trophy without his contributions.

If this is how his career ends, it'll be super sad, but we saw what he was capable of from 2015-2019. Those will always be good memories.

I have a feeling he will return (whether he should or not), but as others have said, his effectiveness will be greatly diminished. A ton of his goal scoring prowess was his otherworldly wrist shot, and if he can't fire those lasers anymore, he's probably a 40-50 point guy. Not worth 7.5 mil a year, but if he's not himself and Petro doesn't return, our window's shutting anyway.

We are a better team with Tarasenko in the lineup, and I really hope I'm wrong and we see those speed-of-sound wristers again next year.
 

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I think he'll still be very effective actually, but with his playmaking, which fits with his personality/pass-first mentality. And, as has been said many times before, if dude could've worked a one-timer into his repertoire, he could've been on another level. If there's ever an impetus to add that to his arsenal, a less-lethal wrist-shot due to a bad shoulder is it. Hopefully, he drops some weight as well, becomes marginally faster while retaining most of his strength. That's a lot of hoping, granted, but i'm a hopeful kinda dude.
 
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