Player Discussion Tanner Pearson
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If you are looking at actually using the picks, you can look at hockeyDB and see what came out of the draft.
Sutter, they flipped a late 2nd for an early 3rd if I recall.
There are definately NHLers who got drafted after the Canuck's pick. And at that point in the draft, draft lists will vary a lot from team to team. So, who knows what the Canucks draft list was. You can say that they could have had Andersson in 2015. Between andersson at pick 53 to the end of round 3 in that deep 2015 draft, you have Andersson, Dunn and Cirelli who are the biggest contributors to their NHL team. If you don't take one of those, there's really not a lot of production from the other players with those other 35 picks.
Dillon Dube, Carl Grundstrom, and Dylan Gambrell were all picked in between the picks swapped in the Sutter deal.
Brandon Montour, Ryan Donato and Christian Dvorak were available with the pick moved for Linden Vey (Brayden Point was also taken 79th - Canucks had 5 chances at him).
Team looks much better with Rasmus Anderson or Vince Dunn rather than Baertschi.
The big hit is that 33rd overall in 2016 they tossed on the burn pile for Gudbranson.
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I think that offer is likely more than fair. But then, I don't know shit.
I like Pearson a lot. He's a likeable veteran guy who puts up goals in bunches, and doesn't hurt his team defensively when he goes cold on the offense. I think he really re-established himself in Vancouver after kind of hitting a low point in Pittsburgh.
If he does move on, I hope it's to an organization that treats him well.
I think you start with a 2nd round pick and see who will bid it up. No to Demers though. He wouldn't waive to come here previously. Although that could be punishment?
Knowing Benning and considering Lebrun's speculations, I think Benning will be looking at a youngish winger to come back.
Thanks! Arizona is likely a good fit as he would slot immediately into a 2LW role with Dvorak as his C and some combo of Kessel/Pitlick as his RW. Dvorak is turning into a quality 2C, he's just saddled with pluggers (Crouse/Pitlick) as line mates.I think that offer is likely more than fair. But then, I don't know shit.
I like Pearson a lot. He's a likeable veteran guy who puts up goals in bunches, and doesn't hurt his team defensively when he goes cold on the offense. I think he really re-established himself in Vancouver after kind of hitting a low point in Pittsburgh.
If he does move on, I hope it's to an organization that treats him well.
Pearson should be a valuable commodity at the trade deadline.....a solid up and down winger, with Stanley Cup experience. Even in a COVID year, there still has to be a lot of interest.
Then you remember that the guy manning the phones trying to extract value for this player, is none other than Jethro. And you get the same helpless feeling, that there's just no way it'll work out. Most likely outcome is that 'he runs out of time' and Pearson isn't traded.
But if he does trade him, he'll get back some reclamation project rather than the draft picks this team desperately needs.
Then you remember that the guy manning the phones trying to extract value for this player, is none other than Jethro. And you get the same helpless feeling, that there's just no way it'll work out. Most likely outcome is that 'he runs out of time' and Pearson isn't traded.
But if he does trade him, he'll get back some reclamation project rather than the draft picks this team desperately needs.
Insider Trading: What does future hold for Pearson in Vancouver?
Around the 1:30 minute mark about the Canucks want to resign Pearson. This checks all the boxes
-cant get a pick/prospect for him before TDL
-have to protect him in Seattle draft
-Production getting worse
-Slowing down
So 4 year contract? 5 years???? Why not 8??!!
Around the 1:30 minute mark about the Canucks want to resign Pearson. This checks all the boxes
-cant get a pick/prospect for him before TDL
-have to protect him in Seattle draft
-Production getting worse
-Slowing down
So 4 year contract? 5 years???? Why not 8??!!
Okay. So... re-sign? Let him walk? Don't think we can trade him at this point since he's injured.
He'll be 29 next season. He's been a good fit alongside Horvat but he's having a down year. At this point in his career he's a complimentary goal scorer who is solid defensively and wins puck battles. No gamebreaking potential. He's not particularly fleet of foot. He has spent very little time away from Horvat but his time in Pittsburgh makes me think he's not a plug and play forward and might not be all that effective if he's on our 3rd line.
What are the comparables? Kassian is at $3.2M AAV, Connor Brown at $3.6M, Foligno $2.87. I think if we were to re-sign Pearson to a short term contract that runs 2-3 years he's looking at that range in AAV.
I think the Canucks' offer should be 2 years below $3M. We should wait after the expansion draft anyways. I think there's a significant risk of decline where he would just be an ok 3rd line player.
He'll be 29 next season. He's been a good fit alongside Horvat but he's having a down year. At this point in his career he's a complimentary goal scorer who is solid defensively and wins puck battles. No gamebreaking potential. He's not particularly fleet of foot. He has spent very little time away from Horvat but his time in Pittsburgh makes me think he's not a plug and play forward and might not be all that effective if he's on our 3rd line.
What are the comparables? Kassian is at $3.2M AAV, Connor Brown at $3.6M, Foligno $2.87. I think if we were to re-sign Pearson to a short term contract that runs 2-3 years he's looking at that range in AAV.
I think the Canucks' offer should be 2 years below $3M. We should wait after the expansion draft anyways. I think there's a significant risk of decline where he would just be an ok 3rd line player.
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He’s performed literally terribly this season.
It looks like he’s already declined and they would be paying him based off of his last regular season.
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Let Pearson walk to UFA with a two year offer in his pocket at 1.5/yr.
Give him a couple weeks to find a better dollar. Then circle back and see if he will take the two year deal. If not, move on. He’s going to be in the bottom six next season anyway.
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Toffoli and Stecher man. Still hurts. Trade Pearson and Myers and we could have even added a 3rd line center w the extra savings.
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That's probably the best strategy. There's probably someone on the market who could fill a role on a 1 year deal. Who knows, Ferland might come back.
The biggest requirement is for Pods to be able to come in and play a top 6 role similar to Hoglander.
Hes still tradeable. As long as the canucks are open and truthful about the inury and how long he could be out. just takes another gm whos ok with that.
Right but he's not very useful as a deadline acquisition being weeks away from playing.
timeline is roughly a month for the injury.
tdl is 3.5 weeks away.
still a benefit to teams
If it’s to a US team, there is still the quarantine to go through. Compensation might be conditional. If he was expected to garner say a 2nd or 3rd, an injury might change the deal to a conditional 3rd or 4th which moves up a round based on games played or something.
for sure the value will take a bit of a hit, but i don't think it will be too bad. U.S. quarantine isnt as strict as ours either.
id rather take a conditional 3rd/4th than him walk as a ufa
id rather take a conditional 3rd/4th than him walk as a ufa
In a perfect world teams want him to get some games in so he has time to get acclimated with the team. But theres some teams that basically have no cap space at all that will just want his services for playoffs which can be enticing to some where they dont have to worry about making the money work.
I like Pearson, hardworking, realiable, shoot first mentality player that can pitch in with a few goals here and there. But his best days are behind him. Last year was an anomaly for him because how many empty net points did he score? 10? I called him the empty net specialist for a reason.
2x2 is what id be offering him factoring in that we have to re-sign Petey, Hughes, Demko, but i doubt he'd take it since he could get atleast 3x3 anywhere else.
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Re-signing Pearson would be really stupid, so I fully expect that's what's going to happen.
Pretty much. It's going to be Chiarelli's Koskinen/Manning moment.
Pearson has scored at about a 25-28 point pace from constant top-6 minutes + PP time since February 1, 2020. It's insane that the notion of giving him money/term is out there.
At this point, he is a failure as a top-6 forward here. We should not be moving forward with him in our top-6. He might do some things that can make him useful as a bottom-6 forward, but if he's re-signed ... it should be as that bottom-6 forward, at what you'd give a bottom-6 forward in UFA. 1 year, <$1.5 million.
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