Gentle Man
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Not to mention he wanted to call up Shaw and they straight up traded him away.
The writing was on the wall already.
Tallon’s time is up?
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Not to mention he wanted to call up Shaw and they straight up traded him away.
The writing was on the wall already.
GrumpyKelly
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That's exactly why you would trade a guy like Huby. Trading Bjugs wouldn't get it done.
I mean, yeah you could fire him after the season. That's not the issue. The issue is I have no confidence in this FO to hire the right person to bring this franchise into contender status. Like I said before, after that 2016 offseason, and the firing of Gallant, all bets were off. It will take luck for this franchise to become a contender.
I am not exposed
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No. Tallon is building the farm guys. He’s scared to trade to make them better. It’s so obvious what needs to be done. Trade Borgstrom trade these kids. Trade a first rounder. We need more defense here. I’m sure he will stick his hand in the crop of mediocrity and bring some journeyman in and sell it to the not so knowledgeable Florida fans as tho it’s a significant signing and or trade. Its mind boggling how inept this organization is.
Different coaches
Different GMs
Different owners
Same old Panthers
Different coaches
Different GMs
Different owners
Same old Panthers
jvr32
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Stupid questions. Obviously he should have never been re-hired. Now we are wasting everyone's time.
ucanthanzalthetruth
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It's not, because if you feel he should not have been rehired, question 1 applies. Do you think ownership will bring in someone better is a very valid question with this group's track record.
Organization in the best shape it’s ever been in. Never in the history have we been able to keep a
Prospect like Borg or Tippett off the team til now. Young talent all through the team and in lesser leagues. This is just fact. But results matter so if no playoffs then yes. But the new gm will have a plethora of assets and be walking into a great situation
Prospect like Borg or Tippett off the team til now. Young talent all through the team and in lesser leagues. This is just fact. But results matter so if no playoffs then yes. But the new gm will have a plethora of assets and be walking into a great situation
I’m sure Tallon will blame this disaster Of a start on the schedule. I’m sure it’s been mentioned already actually. Excuses all the time. No pressure from the fans and media to win. That’s why they get away with mediocrity for so long. This would never fly in a big time market. They are lucky no one cares about this team.
Jakeybonz
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you and I clearly do. and very few others here. its the rage we share that shows we care. don't ever trust a happy panthers fan.
barkovcanfinnish
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If we miss the playoffs, whether it’s by 30pts or 1pt, he should be let go. If we make it, it depends how we do.
I’m a big Tallon guy but the constant under-achievement has to have a breaking point.
I’m a big Tallon guy but the constant under-achievement has to have a breaking point.
PanthersHockey1
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Most likely 1 point because Panthers.
It’s to the point where essentially everyone should be available prospect wise other than Borgstrom to boost our team. If Tippett has to go, so be it.
FrolikFan67
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i mean even with barkov and trocheck locked in i saw borgstrom isnt off limits. keep those two, once we get rid of bjugstad thatll cover the pay raises for dadonov (our most important winger to retain) and hoffman (i still have high hopes for him, just put him with a more suitable player (not trocheck). or if we keep borgstrom, im not opposed to trocheck being available for the simple fact that his value should be very very high. im not saying to sell off everyone, im not advocating for trading these players, im just open to it as opposed to the "under no circumstance would i ever consider it" camp.
werent we surpringly enough one of the few teams who inquired deeply or something at the deadline in regards to karlsson? but we'd never get him because it involves parting with the most sacred thing in the world....prospects.
what im hoping for is trade bjugstad for picks and prospects to pay for dads and hoffs pay increases. then when (hopefully) panarin becomes a free agent we trade huberdeau for a high pick and use his money to sign panarin. Dadonov-Barkov-Panarin needs to happen. Borgstrom plays with Hoffman, Trocheck runs his own line. or, with borgstrom being a highly rated center prospect, and we already have barkov and trocheck as it is, trade him for a highly rated D prospect.
but i guess at the end of the day they need to figure out goaltending and defense. reimer is too inconsistent to ever be a starter, and luongo is almost 40 and approaching retirement with a lot of recent ailments, which makes things even worse than the age itself.
we have ekblad, yandle, and matheson on D. meanwhile, we have barkov, trocheck, dadonov, huberdeau, hoffman, borgstrom, tippett, denisenko, all at forward. we have good offense but we're simply not balanced, now or for the longterm. we need to make a move for a top-4. we have more than enough pieces.
werent we surpringly enough one of the few teams who inquired deeply or something at the deadline in regards to karlsson? but we'd never get him because it involves parting with the most sacred thing in the world....prospects.
what im hoping for is trade bjugstad for picks and prospects to pay for dads and hoffs pay increases. then when (hopefully) panarin becomes a free agent we trade huberdeau for a high pick and use his money to sign panarin. Dadonov-Barkov-Panarin needs to happen. Borgstrom plays with Hoffman, Trocheck runs his own line. or, with borgstrom being a highly rated center prospect, and we already have barkov and trocheck as it is, trade him for a highly rated D prospect.
but i guess at the end of the day they need to figure out goaltending and defense. reimer is too inconsistent to ever be a starter, and luongo is almost 40 and approaching retirement with a lot of recent ailments, which makes things even worse than the age itself.
we have ekblad, yandle, and matheson on D. meanwhile, we have barkov, trocheck, dadonov, huberdeau, hoffman, borgstrom, tippett, denisenko, all at forward. we have good offense but we're simply not balanced, now or for the longterm. we need to make a move for a top-4. we have more than enough pieces.
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Asheville
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There's a correlation between satisfaction level and years as a fan. If you've been following the franchise since their uniform unveiling with Wayne H. like myself, well, you're not beaming with optimism. Speaking of, anyone see Brian Benning? My goodness has he aged. Conversely, Mike Hough was cryogenically frozen, apparently.
Having said that, the No. 1 reason this team is winless is because they aren't getting NHL-level goaltending. The only fault I'd place on Tallon at present is investing so heavily in Montembeault that he failed to jettison calculator boy Reimer for a DeSmith/Husso type to realistically compete with Sam.
Jakeybonz
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agree were not getting the tending, but I really think the D is even weaker. its hard to find worse D in the nhl than we've been getting. the D was why I said b4 the season we had little chance. not one of our D is actually good at defending. and besides yandle none are even good offensively. and just to prevent all the ekblad 16 goal freaks, no, ekblad is not good offensively. hes slow and cant pass for crap. he'll never top 45 points if even 40. its madness.
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even if we miss the playoffs i still think tallon should stay. he will keep building and has a great eye for talent!
Lol i'm sitting here trying to understand what rough start has Huberdeau had? He has 2 points in 4 games so far with a center that doesn't know how to cycle the puck and compliment the way he plays and a new winger (also has 2 points) who's most likely still adjusting to the new team and system. Trocheck has 4 points. Like, what rough start has that second line actually had? All three have the same amount of combined points as the first line, that everyone is saying has looked great.. And they're only going to get better as they gel more and Hoffman gets used to the system better.
TheImpatientPanther
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I agree with what you said but if we did want to upgrade the top 4 RD spot, you dangle Huberdeau on the trade block and see if you can get a guy like Trouba or Pesce possibly.
Our LW is pretty well stocked now and into the future.
Dadonov
Hoffman
Vatrano
Mamin
Borgstrom if converted which is likely if McCann continues to perform/produce
Heponiemi
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Haapala
Yeah best shape in years and they do nothing to improve the team. You can’t win cups with zero vets/experience on the team. This team is full of high draft picks who got locked up real early (which is good long term) but they haven’t earned it. They haven’t won shit.
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I miss you Harv...We may have not always agreed but you are a breath of fresh air right now.
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