Swiss NLA overtakes Sweden in attendance

Discussion in 'Hockey Talk by Country' started by Belenos, Mar 15, 2011.

View Users: View Users
  1. Belenos

    Belenos Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2010
    Messages:
    621
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Biel, Switzerland
  2. 1912

    1912 Exalted User

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2010
    Messages:
    809
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Babylon
    Not surprising. Seeing as two of swedens top market teams, Leksand and Malmö, yet again fail to advance to Elitserien and is stuck in Allsvenskan. And the general decline in attendance in the SEL. Plus the presence of Södertälje in Elitserien witch probably brings down the average quite a bit.

    If Leksand or Malmö advances next season the balance should be restored.
     
  3. Mathradio

    Mathradio Drive for 25

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2010
    Messages:
    9,861
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Graduate student
    Home Page:
    Hope that the Swiss NLA has stepped up in terms of playing level.
     
  4. worstfaceoffmanever

    worstfaceoffmanever These Snacks Are Odd

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2007
    Messages:
    12,948
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Fargo, ND
    Gotta think the massive attendance bump in Zagreb puts them on the KHL's radar.
     
  5. Purple hippo

    Purple hippo Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2010
    Messages:
    732
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Louvain-la-Neuve
    Its highly unlikely Medveščak could join the KHL, though their attendance is good for Dom Sportova, that huge spike comes mostly from their Ice Fever event when they play out of Arena Zagreb which they sell out the 4 matches. Damir Gojanovic has shown interest in the KHL and said it would cost them 6-7 million euros per year but according to most people, they would need around 10 to be able to do anything. If they are able to somehow pay the rent to use Arena Zagreb the entire year, their roster would need to be almost all imports as Croatian hockey is simply too weak at the moment to take on KHL clubs.

    Remember, just about two years ago they were playing in the Slovene Championship, drawing no more then 1000 people and with that roster would be beaten badly by any club in the EBEL. Medveščak is better off growing hockey outside Zagreb, improving their junior system and then maybe try KHL, but for now, the EBEL should be just good enough.

    Based on all rumours, the KHL has zero interest in Croatia, they want the top Austrian clubs (highly unlikely), a Slovakian club (set in stone basically) and looking at clubs from Germany and Italy. (Germany most likely, Italy...somebody rich must be backing this club)
     
  6. Theokritos

    Theokritos Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2010
    Messages:
    8,372
    Likes Received:
    629
    Trophy Points:
    109
    [​IMG]
     
  7. torero

    torero Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2007
    Messages:
    4,247
    Likes Received:
    142
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    hockey games couch potato
    Location:
    shore lake Leman
    Home Page:
    On top of that, many teams are planing new arenas or extensions ... ! Even SCB with 17thousands and some places ... are 95% full on average ... therefore even they could plan a new arena !!
     
  8. Hockeyfrilla

    Hockeyfrilla Registered User

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    Messages:
    5,156
    Likes Received:
    266
    Trophy Points:
    124
    Location:
    Sweden
    SEL back on top.

    Regular-Season average attendance Europe & Asia

    League Attendance
    1.
    Sweden - Elitserien
    6,3852
    .
    Switzerland - National League A
    6,305
    3.
    Germany - Deutsche Eishockey Liga
    6,060
    4.
    Russia - Kontinental Hockey League
    5,891
    5.
    Finland - SM-liiga
    5,103
    6.
    Czech Republic - Extraliga
    4,824
    7.
    Austria - EBEL
    3,606
    8.
    Slovakia - Extraliga
    2,687
    9.
    Great Britain - Elite Ice Hockey League
    2,028
    10.
    Norway - Get Ligaen
    1,462
    11.
    France - Ligue Magnus
    1,391
    12.
    Denmark - AL-Bank Liga
    1,301
    13.
    Belarus - Extraliga
    1,111
    14.
    Asia League (CHN/KOR/JPN)
    1,024

    15.
    Italy - Serie A
    987

    Regular-Season average attendance 2nd-tier leagues Europe

    League Attendance

    1.
    Sweden - Allsvenskan
    2,606


    2.
    Russia - VHL
    2,252

    3.
    Germany - 2. Bundesliga
    2,303

    4.
    Switzerland - National League B
    2,112

    5.
    Finland - Mestis
    1,172

    6.
    Czech Republic - 1. liga
    1,130

    http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/....html?tx_ttnews[backPid]=955&cHash=fb6171f7ea
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2012
  9. ozo

    ozo Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2010
    Messages:
    3,551
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    71
    Those are one helluva precise SEL stats - calculated till one fifth of a human. ;)
     
  10. Mathradio

    Mathradio Drive for 25

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2010
    Messages:
    9,861
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Graduate student
    Home Page:
    I think it's a typo, although Elitserien could technically publish average attendance down to one-tenth of a fan. But 6,385 on average seems just right to me.
     
  11. billy piton

    billy piton Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    736
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Zagreb
    in fact, they had 7 matches sell out in arena. 105.000 spectators in 2 weeks. ;)

    hockey is getting big in croatia.
     
  12. cutchemist42

    cutchemist42 Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2011
    Messages:
    6,427
    Likes Received:
    66
    Trophy Points:
    71
    Location:
    Winnipeg
    Happy to see Zagreb doing well being 1/2 Croatian!
     
  13. Theokritos

    Theokritos Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2010
    Messages:
    8,372
    Likes Received:
    629
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Well, they've got a lot of North Americans with Croatian roots. They're basically playing Joe Sakic's cousins who were not good enough to make it in the NHL. Plus some of their "Croatians" don't even have a Croatian background: Michael Ouzas, Kenny MacAuley, Geoff Waugh. 1/2 Croatian? Debatable.
     
  14. Hockeyfrilla

    Hockeyfrilla Registered User

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    Messages:
    5,156
    Likes Received:
    266
    Trophy Points:
    124
    Location:
    Sweden
    The longside in Berns Arena is standing sections? Crazy.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Medo

    Medo Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2011
    Messages:
    354
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    They don't have to be 1/2 in order to qualify.. they need to have only one great grandparent. Croatian citizenship laws are very liberal in order to get people (who moved out in communist times) to return. Just in South and North America there's more Croats than in Zagreb. I've met quite a lot of South American Croats on my university so i guess that's working out for them. Some didn't know a single word of Croatian.. but oh well :D

    Ouzas, MacAuley and Waugh were scouted/signed on purpose because they had some distant Croat relative so that they would count as home players. EBEL roster has sort of point cap.. you gotta fit your roster into 60 points.
     
  16. Hockeyfrilla

    Hockeyfrilla Registered User

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    Messages:
    5,156
    Likes Received:
    266
    Trophy Points:
    124
    Location:
    Sweden
    Attendence in SEL will drop big time next year as one of the most pouplar clubs Djurgården will be relegated to Allsvenskan.
     
  17. 1912

    1912 Exalted User

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2010
    Messages:
    809
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Location:
    Babylon
    I think that depends on what teams are promoted. If, for example Leksand advances i don't think the drop will be that severe.
     
  18. Jonimaus

    Jonimaus Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2011
    Messages:
    2,978
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    54
    Location:
    Lund
    Yeah, but they won't, the chance is minimal.

    Leksand, Malmö, Djurgården in Allsvenskan... It's time for ES to invite a bunch of teams back, including those 3, and close the league. It's a pity because "kvalserien" is amazing and always very very interesting and entertaining but Elitserien is suffering greatly.
     
  19. pulverapa

    pulverapa Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2011
    Messages:
    349
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Stockholm
    Sweden will drop under 6.000 this year. If Frölunda has a bad season that number drop to 5.700.
     
  20. TheNeutrality

    TheNeutrality scaldin ur d00dz

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2012
    Messages:
    9,802
    Likes Received:
    337
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Location:
    Zurich
    Good calls.


    http://estat.hockeyligan.se/c/LSpectatorsOverview.aspx?LId=250
    Average: 5719 (at the moment)

    http://www.nationalleague.ch/NL/spiele/de/spectators_nla.php?season=2013
    Average: ~6600
    (SC Bern with a ridiculous 16'330 attendance average, good enough for 25th in the NHL)

    Seems like it won't be really close this year. I suspect the lockout as a main factor, eventhough the numbers in Switzerland "only" went up by ~300. And of course the relegation of Djurgården.

    How does it look like in the other leagues?
     
  21. joe89

    joe89 #5

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2009
    Messages:
    20,209
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    111
  22. vorky

    vorky @vorkywh24

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2010
    Messages:
    9,154
    Likes Received:
    228
    Trophy Points:
    81
  23. Jussi

    Jussi Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    62,464
    Likes Received:
    1,045
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    The List Of Jericho
    I can't help thinking the decision to bar lock-out players in Elitserien was not taken lightly by the fans and there was some backlash as a result of this.
     
  24. joe89

    joe89 #5

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2009
    Messages:
    20,209
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Definitely, even if it would've been a very short term attendance fix for a league that has far bigger problems.

    Out of the 11 teams that played in the league last season, 3 has seen an increase of attendance and 8 has seen a decrease. No decrease greater than Frölunda's who has gone from 10482 to 8704. The others are a few hundred. The biggest loss however has been replacing Djurgården's 7723 to newcomer Rögle's 3911.
     
  25. Jonimaus

    Jonimaus Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2011
    Messages:
    2,978
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    54
    Location:
    Lund
    Invite Leksand, Malmö, Djurgården, possibly Södertälje and Örebro would solve a lot. SEL needs those 3 teams as much as those 3 teams needs SEL.
     

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"