Management Sweeney: "We're Looking to Make Changes" - III

[BB88]

I'm not so sure without conditional picks if trading for a guy whose stated for the record that he wants to see what's out there in free agency is a smart move.

The pick is a low pick and Hall wants to win.
Boston has a pretty strong record over the last couple years and few superstars on the roster

Would like Debrusk on the team if they added Hall. But you definitely can get a first for JD .. no doubt

He had DeBrusk as trade option at that point(Hall signing)

Let’s say
Add
Hall
Dillon
1st round pick

Out
DeBrusk
Krug
?

and bonus would be getting rid of Moore

 

[BAD BOY]

The pick is a low pick and Hall wants to win.
Boston has a pretty strong record over the last couple years and few superstars on the roster





He had DeBrusk as trade option at that point(Hall signing)

He’s a good candidate when DK moves on.( Hall) but the other two players on Florida are good as well. I wonder can somebody find Hall’s 5 on 5 numbers when ever . I’m just curious

 

[bbfan419]

My point about Moore was they signed him, and about half a season in they didn't have any role for him, so he sat upstairs as Cassidy preferred six D-men over him. Sign Smith and how long before him and his 4 million AAV (which is what he's seeking according to his agent) are upstairs in the press box? Cassidy had Heinen sitting out as a healthy scratch right before he got dealt to Anaheim because he had no place for him. Aren't the Bruins done signing middle-tier guys only to have them scratched yet still carrying their cap hit on the books? Haven't they done enough of that crap already the past 5 years?

Is Smith better than Wagner? Sure. Is Wagner going anywhere? Nope, he just got extended and his new deal hasn't even started yet.

This team doesn't have a cap crunch as much as it does a roster spot crunch. You can only carry 23 guys. That's the reality. I see no reason to waste a valuable roster spot on a guy who wouldn't have a defined role here.

Wagner just signed, but we have seen players sign only to be trade not long after. If a team wants Wagner in part of a deal he is gone IMO.

 

[Absurdity]

Eichel return starts at Pasta or McAcoy

What would you do if you were Sweeney? I can see it both ways.

Wouldn't the point of trading for someone like Eichel be to play him with Pastrnak? If that's the case, who replaces McAvoy? Would the Bruins have enough cap space for a Pietrangelo?

If the Bruins are confident in signing DeBrusk to a sub $4M deal and think he is a lot better than what he has shown and that Eichel could bring out the best of him, maybe including Pastrnak in the deal makes sense.

I hope the Bruins could get Eichel for a few quarters some dimes and some nickels, but if I had to choose, what's easier to replace, a #1D, #1C, or a #1W? As much as I like Pastrnak, it will always be the winger.

 

[bbfan419]

Any deal involving Eichel to the B's would have to involve one of Pasty or McAvoy plus other pieces.

Unless he wants to go to Boston and ask for it, then the Sabres are at a disadvantage.

 

[bbfan419]

I think more like Pasta debrusk and carlo

would not trade pasta alone for him.

 

[PB37]

The Rangers, for one. Hell, Gorton could offer Lafrenière (1st overall pick), Ziba and a young D (Adam Fox?). Which other team could beat that?

Or Kakko ( 2nd overall in 2019 ) and Lafreniere. The Rangers have a treasure trove of riches in their pipeline.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

The Rangers, for one. Hell, Gorton could offer Lafrenière (1st overall pick), Ziba and a young D (Adam Fox?). Which other team could beat that?

Why would he offer that?

 

[JOKER 192]

Back in June: NHL Notebook: Weighing the cost, challenges for Bruins in a potential Jack Eichel blockbuster trade | Boston Sports Journal

Carlo + DeBrusk + Studnicka + Vaakanainen + 1st + 2nd

 

[veganbruin]

Pasta > Eichel for the contract alone.

 

[bbfan419]

To Buff:
Pasta
Studnicka
Moore (cap)
Lindholm (cap)

To Boston:
Eichel
Montour (RFA)

Tempting. Eichel solves the #1 center for the next decade. Wingers much easier to find. Not sure Buffalo would bite on it.

Nope Pasta and McAvoy are a no go for me, as much as I like Eichel they other guys are just as valuable and paid a lot less $$.

 

[JOKER 192]

Back in June: NHL Notebook: Weighing the cost, challenges for Bruins in a potential Jack Eichel blockbuster trade | Boston Sports Journal

Carlo + DeBrusk + Studnicka + Vaakanainen + 1st + 2nd

I stopped being intrested at Vaak. You just can't gut a team like that for 1 player.

 

[bbfan419]

eichel probably wouldve shown up to play in the playoffs this year.
pasta was a disaster. missed all practices, couldnt stay on his feet.
Hes a great player, but Id take eichel over him any day of the week. Eichel has the better shot, better hands, better skater.

Better shot, not sure about that one.

 

[Absurdity]

Pasta > Eichel for the contract alone.

What if Buffalo retains $2M?

 

[veganbruin]

What if Buffalo retains $2M?

They would be resting 2M for like 6 years. No way they do that. Wouldn’t do the deal either way. Not a chance.

 

[bbfan419]

Take Loui and Demko from Vancouver. Total cap for this year....roughly 7 million

Trade Rask for whatever......there's your 7 million in cap space. It's a wash for this year.

Buy out Eriksson next summer.

I'd do that in a heartbeat. You get your long-term No.1 goalie in Demko at the price of carrying his buy-out cap hit for 4 million in 2021-22. Drops to 1 million the year after.

Maybe Ferland instead of Loui

 

[bbfan419]

They said it couldn't be done! Well, it was a salary cap challenge that I undertook and I think most of the deals are close. Mainly a salary cap challenge.

Way Over the Top Six Challenge - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

nope not for me , over paying for FA and the trades are not good, after line 2 the forwards are thin, the D looks awful. Sorry good for you for trying, but I want a deeper team than that one.

 

[The don godfather]

Or Kakko ( 2nd overall in 2019 ) and Lafreniere. The Rangers have a treasure trove of riches in their pipeline.

Kakko smells bust to me.

 

[bbfan419]

Back in June: NHL Notebook: Weighing the cost, challenges for Bruins in a potential Jack Eichel blockbuster trade | Boston Sports Journal

Carlo + DeBrusk + Studnicka + Vaakanainen + 1st + 2nd

That is an awful lot to give up for 1 player

 

[BruinDust]

Wagner just signed, but we have seen players sign only to be trade not long after. If a team wants Wagner in part of a deal he is gone IMO.

Find me one example of an established NHL player who was about to be a UFA, but was extended by his own team during the final season of his current contract, but was traded during the off-season before his new contract kicked in.

 

[Coach Parker]

Maybe Ferland instead of Loui

This is the wildcard for me. If they offered Ferland, Demko and Virtanen for a 2nd and prospect I think I'd take it and spend a lot of training and team assets working on Ferland.

 

[Coach Parker]

Find me one example of an established NHL player who was about to be a UFA, but was extended by his own team during the final season of his current contract, but was traded during the off-season before his new contract kicked in.

Subban?

 

[easton117]

Pasta > Eichel for the contract alone.

If they’re hell bent on trading Pastrnak for some reason I’d rather they call Tampa and try for Point instead.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Find me one example of an established NHL player who was about to be a UFA, but was extended by his own team during the final season of his current contract, but was traded during the off-season before his new contract kicked in.

That’s interesting. Subban is mentioned, but I’d have to check the math on that.

But we are talking about Wagner right? Regardless of contract, he’s... Chris Wagner. Like I dig the guy, but to attest that he won’t be dealt because of when he signed his deal? I don’t know... he’s Chris Wagner, man.

 

[Dr Hook]

That’s interesting. Subban is mentioned, but I’d have to check the math on that.

But we are talking about Wagner right? Regardless of contract, he’s... Chris Wagner. Like I dig the guy, but to attest that he won’t be dealt because of when he signed his deal? I don’t know... he’s Chris Wagner, man.

He’s the Mayor of Walpole. You can’t trade him, man