Swedish Prospect Update Thread - Part 4

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  1. JAS 39 Gripen

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    He needs to get away from his dad. Look up his dads twitter or watch him or hear him speak during his sons games, its truly awful.
     
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    Played a game for Almtuna, was great in the OZ, a bit of a nightmare in his own end with the puck: got steamrolled by a Timra skater going to the net. Did not play the next Almtuna game. We'll see what happens Boxing Day.

    He had hurt his knee in a J20 game the week before, the men's game later that day he took 1 shift in the 1st 40 minutes.

    In J20, his point totals are unusual as he plays 30 minutes a game.

    His OZ skills are great but subtle, but he's never going to be a tall guy, but I don't think his body type will let him be a stout one.

    If his skating gets a little better and his D zone work gets a lot better, he could make the NHL, but as a top 10 pick, no way. Plenty of undersized guys with great O skills never make it out of the AHL
     
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    He was probably the best player I saw at the Ivan Hlinka this summer. If he has skating issues, then so does every player in this draft. You can't compare his explosiveness to guys with 10+ years in the gym, playing 20 minutes in one Allsvenskan game and being an offensive factor is very impressive, I watched that same game. I've also seen a few Brynäs J20 games this season and he has not played close to 30 minutes in any of them, they usually roll 3 pairs pretty evenly.
     
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    Must've been an odd one for me then as he played every other shift(only dresssed 3 lines) until he hurt his knee at 35 minutes. Came back for the 3rd in obvious discomfort, scored a goal but it still wasn't right.

    Even before he got hurt in the J20 against Timra he was a mess in his own end with zone exits, got beat to the outside with speed more than once.

    The Almtuna AIK game, the excuse that he's playing against grown men doesn't wash. Asides from the one play where he was roadkil, trying to box out, his decision making in his own end with the puck was the main problem. After Leman was ejected, he wasn't really given extra shifts. Maybe it's quality of teammates hurting him.

    New team, new coach, short leash, I understand. I'm sure he'll kill at WM18, but he didn't make WM20. There's this idea of the best defence is by having a good offence doesn't work if you can't get the puck out of your end. So does a PP specialist in a league going 4F 1D rate top 10? 1st round?
     
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    Any thoughts on Marcus Björk from Oskarshamn? He's made a pretty nice jump from Div-1 to Allsvenskan as a 19/20 year old.
     
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    he's not swedish but in the SHL .. how is rondbjerg doing`? thx
     
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    Pretty well, has an underrated shot. Needs to get stronger. If he has a good off season I'm confident he will be a good top 6 guy for Växjö next year.
     
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    So is there enough to Victor Olofsson's game to translate to the NHL? He's small but his ability to get separation and his accuracy and release seem top notch.
     
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    Lots of power play goals from the same spot. He's a sniper with some speed. Much like another Swede getting some attention in Michael Lindqvist they're both mediocre aside from good speed and great one-timers. They need to be put in the right role (good playmakers and PP time) to succeed.
     
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    Since Olofsson is somewhat small I'm a bit worried about him handling the physicality of playing in the NHL, but he isn't really soft. I'd like to see Victor try playing in North America.
     
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    I really like Rasmus Sandin for pick. Hoping Leafs get him!
     
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    For those of you with knowledge of Swedish prospects I’ve been trying to find the answer to what seems like a simple question:

    Does Dahlin prefer 8 or 26? My assumption is 8 and he wears 26 because it was already taken by Nygren?
     
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    He's only worn #8 at the two WJC's as far as I know. Played mostly with with #2 growing up in Lidköping, switched to 18 when he went to Frölunda, plays with 26 in the SHL. Wore #4 with the younger national teams, think he played with #14 at some point too. Pretty hard to tell which number he prefers :nod:
     
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    Could any Frolunda fans comment on how Carl Grundstrom looks this season? How’s his compete?
     
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    I'm not a Frölunda fan, but my opinion is that Grundström looks like a prototypical third liner. He plays a physical game, works hard and is a pretty good scorer.

    Since the Allsvenskan regular season concluded yesterday, here are some stats for some prospects (feel free to correct me if I've made any mistakes)...

    PlayerTeamNHL rightsGPGAPts
    Jonathan DahlénTimråVancouver44232144
    Jakob Stenqvist (D)BjörklövenDallas4651722
    Jacob OlofssonTimrå2018 draft43101121
    Lucas ElvenesOskarshamnVegas2241721
    Filip HållanderTimrå2018 draft4091120
    Emil BemströmLeksandColumbus338715
    Gustav Lindström (D)AlmtunaDetroit396814
    Jakob Ragnarsson (D)Almtuna2018 draft474913

    PlayerTeamNHL rightsGPWLOTGASOGAASV%
    Adam WernerBjörklövenColorado472621010932.34.914
    Olle Eriksson EkKarlskogaAnaheim115512512.33.907
     
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    You forgot Isak Wallin Isak Wallin
    PlayerTeamNHL rightsGPWLOTGASOGAASV%
    Isak WallinModo-2210125212.3691.49
     
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    If anyone has any info, how has Anton Andersson been? Blues drafted this kid and no one has had any insight to how he's playing or how he has played recently. It looks like he was loaned, but I don't know when that happened.
     
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    Some more stat updates as the SHL regular season has concluded...

    PlayerTeamNHL rightsGPGAPts
    Elias PetterssonVäxjöVancouver44243256
    Victor EjdsellHV71Chicago50201434
    Jonathan DavidssonDjurgårdenColumbus51102030
    Rasmus AsplundFärjestadBuffalo5082028
    Carl GrundströmFrölundaToronto3517724
    Linus ÖlundBrynäsPittsburgh5181523
    Marcus DavidssonDjurgårdenBuffalo3891120
    Rasmus Dahlin (D)Frölunda2018 draft4171320
    Lucas Carlsson (D)BrynäsChicago4471017
    Lucas ElvenesRögleVegas2851116
    Axel Jonsson FjällbyDjurgårdenWashington416915
    Isac LundeströmLuleå2018 draft426915
    Erik Brännström (D)HV71Vegas4421315
    Tim SöderlundSkellefteåChicago439514
    Lias AnderssonFrölundaNY Rangers227714
    Jesper BoqvistBrynäsNew Jersey2331013

    PlayerTeamNHL rightsGPWLOTGASOGAASV%
    Filip GustavssonLuleåOttawa2291104132.07.918
     
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    I've seen him recently (only two games but I guess it is still something). I was not really impressed by his overall performance. What stood out to me was that his decision making with the puck was quite bad and his passing abilities was subpar. He looked like a very limited player, and I did not really understand why he was drafted, even if it was in the 7th round.
     
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    That's how I felt too. I understand 7th rounders usually dont pan out, but he seemed like a way off the board pick.
     
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    I really wonder what happened to Swedish centres. After years of having atleast a couple of dominant centres, Sundin and Forsberg followed by H.Sedin, Zetterberg and Bäckström.

    Doesn't seem to be any new ones on the way either.. It's almost like Lidström inspired this generation of kids to play defensemen.
     
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    Don't think Lidström inspired anyone to play D, it's a myth created by NA media. Lidström was a nobody in Sweden compared to Forsberg, Sundin, Lundqvist etc.

    The lack of quality center prospects is a big problem though. This article sums it up pretty well (swedish):

    Var finns alla spelgenier?
     
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    Seems he is eager to give it a go. I've been following him for a couple years now when I can, and the Sabres three Swedes are 3/5ths of what keeps me watching at the moment. :biglaugh:
     
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    Great article, thanks for sharing!

    Now while I agree that to a casual fan Sundin and Forsberg are definitely bigger names and kids that grew up watching them were probably more incentivified to model their game after them. I mean, guys like Zetterberg and the Sedins probably started taking hockey seriously just around when Sundin was a big name and entering his prime.

    But to say that Lidström was a nobody in comparison is far from the truth, anybody who's into hockey will definitely view Lidström's accomplishments in just as high of a regard, if not higher. And I don't think that it's a coincident that guys like Karlsson and Hedman were around 10 years old and probably started to take hockey more serious just around when Lidström started to hit the hight of his career.

    It's impossible to say that Lidström wasn't atleast a factor, but I agree he wasn't the reason. What the article says is very interesting and most likely rings true, a big reason is definitely that the defensive position has changed and has given talented kids more of a incentive to play the position.

    But one thing that I find mind boggling is why only Sweden appears to have such a big imbalance between the quality of the positions. If what the article says is the only reason why then are we seeing the other big nations continue to produce quality forwards.

    If the trend continues it'll be very difficult for tre kronor to compete against US and Canada in a tournament where it's the best vs the best. The center quality is just way too far behind, and it's not like Sweden is the only team with a good defense.
     
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    I think the lack of realy good goalscorers is a problem too. Good centers without any top goalscoring wingers wont help. The talent is way to unevenly spread.
     

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