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WJC: Sweden 2019 Roster Talk
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Eye of Ra
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Junioren Albin Grewe lämnade avtryck: "Han är en t-rex"
albin grewe seems like the real deal. a landeskog type of player? rather have him than holtz or raymond on the team.
albin grewe seems like the real deal. a landeskog type of player? rather have him than holtz or raymond on the team.
VictorLustig
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Eye of Ra
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Eye of Ra
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We are gonna have a fantastic team next year too. Something like this:
Hållander - Olofsson - Fagemo
Holtz - Gustafsson - Berggren
Gunler - Nässen - Raymond
Wernblom - Bäck - Grewe
Söderström - Boqvist
Sandin - Lundqvist
Ginning - Filip Johansson
Goalies??
Crazy that Dahlin could still play in next years tournament.
We had good teams every year since 2006, i wonder when this will stop. when is the dark age coming back?
Hållander - Olofsson - Fagemo
Holtz - Gustafsson - Berggren
Gunler - Nässen - Raymond
Wernblom - Bäck - Grewe
Söderström - Boqvist
Sandin - Lundqvist
Ginning - Filip Johansson
Goalies??
Crazy that Dahlin could still play in next years tournament.
We had good teams every year since 2006, i wonder when this will stop. when is the dark age coming back?
TheGoldenJet
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Thank you guys. So the last three games, Elvenes has played back on the right side.
Wings4Life
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This is how I remember it too, though I've only caught a part of one of Rogle's last three games.
So let's review the play of Elvenes:
Dominant 18 year old season in the SHL - playing as Right Wing.
0 points in first 6 games this year - playing as Left Wing.
Recent hot streak last 3 games - playing as Right Wing.
My question is, why does Monten keep trying to shift him to Left Wing? He did this for all 5 games of the summer showcase. It looks like another idiotic Monten move. Sweden's best Right Wing for the WJC should not be played out of position, IMO.
TheGoldenJet
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Wings4Life
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Thing that I don't like with Fagemo is that he has no history of high level play. Last season, he had a poor WC-18, was invisible in the pros, and even failed to impress in Superelit J20. Not a resume I want to take a chance on for the WJC team. It's true he's had a good 6 weeks in the SHL, but it's been on a red hot Frolunda team that's near the top of the league, and this recent stretch of play is all he has going for him. Fagemo will have to have a big performance for the NT next weekend to move the needle for me, and for Monten as well I think.
Sveningsson meanwhile is having an even better season, with 15 points in 15 games in Allsvenskan. He also had a very good season + playoffs in Superelite J20 last year. Right now, he just looks more ready to produce at the WJC level to me.
Wings4Life
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Sweden lineup for their first game in the 4-nation tourney against Czech:
- Ginning-S.Johansson
- T.Hedberg-Westerlund
- Lundkvist-F. Johansson
- V. Berglund
- Elvenes-Olofsson-Bemström
- Höglander-Holmberg-Svenningsson
- Hållander-Lycksell-Södergran
- Wernblom-Bäck-Sylvegård
- Fagemo
Wings4Life
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It's been mentioned, but at forward I'd like to see Elvenes back on his better side (right wing).
Defence looks good. At forward, I'd roll a top 9 of:
Hållander-Olofsson-Bemström
Sveningsson-Holmberg-Elvenes
Höglander-Lycksell-Södergran
With Holmberg as the placeholder for Lundeström.
TheGoldenJet
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Leufvenius is not able to play this tournament.
I heard some rumors after the tournament in Örnsköldsvik that he probably won’t make the team. Might have changed now though after his strong start.
TheGoldenJet
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He’s done very well on a team with little offensive support. Deserves to make the December camp at the very least, in my humble opinion. Sweden is weakest on the left side this year.
That’s my thoughts too. Felt very confused when I heard the rumors. Came from a very secure source too.
VictorLustig
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They gave Ginning the C in this 4-nations tournament. Safe to say he will make the final team....
Eye of Ra
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people always complain about players like ginning before the tournament starts, then when the tournament is over everyone is always praising this type of players.....look at Englund, Nemeth, J.Pettersson....
Not complaining on him, in my opinion he’s just a little bit overrated.
Wings4Life
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My conclusions on the match:
Monten's "thoughts" of moving players out of position (as per the posted lineup above) were disastrous.
Elvenes playing out of position at left wing lost the puck multiple times along the left boards during this game. You could see his individual skill shining through in the neutral zone or with the puck on his stick, but this game for me proved again that he is significantly worse on the left wing. Monten needs to move him back to the right wing where he has been successful.
Sveningsson, as I predicted earlier in this thread, looked worse on the right wing than he has on the left in Allsvenskan.
Was waiting for Monten's epic line change, and finally with 10 minutes left in the third period, it came:
(Left wing) Elvenes - Bemström - Sveningsson (Right wing)
So now instead of just having Elvenes and Sveningsson out of position, he also had his only other elite winger Bemström playing as a C. All three players out of position, bravo.
This monstrosity lasted for about two (very poor) shifts, and then it was back to the same lines that had failed all game.
Samuel Ersson had himself a very poor game, and opened up the doors for OEE to solidify himself as the #1. We'll see how OEE performs.
Höglander was outmuscled in several key battles I noticed on the ice. I just don't think this is his year.
Holmberg won man of the match, while playing as a C. If Lundestrom makes the team, Holmberg would only be a left wing candidate. As is, I am warming up to the idea of him possibly playing C on a third scoring line.
Westerlund was pretty good today. Clearly recovered from his injury, still needs to shake some rust off his game but overall he was one of the better D on the ice.
S. Johansson had a poor game, but Monten likes this player so it probably won't matter much.
Fagemo was largely invisible, and then rifled in a powerplay goal late in the game by skating in unopposed and beating the goalie clean.
Sylvegård was one of the better Swedish forwards on the ice. He looked bigger than most of the Czechs, skated well, won most of his battles, and caused havoc in the offensive zone. Took a really dumb penalty in the third that killed all of Sweden's momentum though.
Wernblom was probably the worst forward on this ice for either team.
Södergran was a pleasant surprise. This team is very deep at RW, but he made a decent case for himself today. Nothing outstanding, just basic solid hockey plays.
OVerall, the entire team was very poor, which I would blame Monten for. The Czechs were very clearly the better team. Here's hoping for better hockey over the next two days.
Monten's "thoughts" of moving players out of position (as per the posted lineup above) were disastrous.
Elvenes playing out of position at left wing lost the puck multiple times along the left boards during this game. You could see his individual skill shining through in the neutral zone or with the puck on his stick, but this game for me proved again that he is significantly worse on the left wing. Monten needs to move him back to the right wing where he has been successful.
Sveningsson, as I predicted earlier in this thread, looked worse on the right wing than he has on the left in Allsvenskan.
Was waiting for Monten's epic line change, and finally with 10 minutes left in the third period, it came:
(Left wing) Elvenes - Bemström - Sveningsson (Right wing)
So now instead of just having Elvenes and Sveningsson out of position, he also had his only other elite winger Bemström playing as a C. All three players out of position, bravo.
This monstrosity lasted for about two (very poor) shifts, and then it was back to the same lines that had failed all game.
Samuel Ersson had himself a very poor game, and opened up the doors for OEE to solidify himself as the #1. We'll see how OEE performs.
Höglander was outmuscled in several key battles I noticed on the ice. I just don't think this is his year.
Holmberg won man of the match, while playing as a C. If Lundestrom makes the team, Holmberg would only be a left wing candidate. As is, I am warming up to the idea of him possibly playing C on a third scoring line.
Westerlund was pretty good today. Clearly recovered from his injury, still needs to shake some rust off his game but overall he was one of the better D on the ice.
S. Johansson had a poor game, but Monten likes this player so it probably won't matter much.
Fagemo was largely invisible, and then rifled in a powerplay goal late in the game by skating in unopposed and beating the goalie clean.
Sylvegård was one of the better Swedish forwards on the ice. He looked bigger than most of the Czechs, skated well, won most of his battles, and caused havoc in the offensive zone. Took a really dumb penalty in the third that killed all of Sweden's momentum though.
Wernblom was probably the worst forward on this ice for either team.
Södergran was a pleasant surprise. This team is very deep at RW, but he made a decent case for himself today. Nothing outstanding, just basic solid hockey plays.
OVerall, the entire team was very poor, which I would blame Monten for. The Czechs were very clearly the better team. Here's hoping for better hockey over the next two days.
Olofsson didn’t even play much at all, who I think should be the leading center if not ducks letting Lundeström go. Also Hållander had limited ice time. Probably Montèn wants to test some players that doesn’t have a safe spot in the team, still thinks it’s pretty weird though.
From what I saw this game (no conclusions) I think Wernblom and Höglander is definitely not ready for this years WJC. Wernblom got big problems with his skating and he doesn’t even win many battles, which previously has been one of his biggest strengths. Höglander isn’t fully mature in his game in my opinion. Makes bad decisions, doesn’t win much battles. Also got some feelings that he might be lacking some hockey IQ.
Just some quick thoughts after the game.
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So the defense is pretty much set for the WJC? (Assuming Liljegren, Sandin & Brännström comes)
Liljegren
Brännström
Sandin
Ginning
Boqvist
Westerlund
Johansson
Barring injuries I'd be very surprised If Montén left any of the above out. Sandin, Westerlund and Ginning would be far from locks if I were to decide.
Liljegren
Brännström
Sandin
Ginning
Boqvist
Westerlund
Johansson
Barring injuries I'd be very surprised If Montén left any of the above out. Sandin, Westerlund and Ginning would be far from locks if I were to decide.
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Love what I saw from Elvenes against the Czechs. Most talented forward on this team by a mile.
That pinch (Tom Hedberg?) on the 1st Czech goal though, that was beer league level.
That pinch (Tom Hedberg?) on the 1st Czech goal though, that was beer league level.
