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    I know he isnt a prospect anymore but any who, what do you guys think of Alexander Svitov do you think he will become a stud player in the future?
     
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    I'm hoping so... got him on my roster (keeper league). I can tell you one thing, he's better off with CBJ then he was with TBay. In Tampa they weren't playing him much, plus they have (had) no minor team - unless you count Hamilton (the Habs team) and we all know that the Habs only have their own players in mind (of course)... Alex will be a fine player in the near future with the Blue Jackets, having kids around him to grew with like Nash, Zherdev, Jonhson, Klesla, Leclaire, etc is a better place for him to mature and learn the North American game at a pace that wont rush his development... considering that CBJ is such a young team and have time to become contenders - unlike in TBay, where there is NO room for any kid to step in unless it's a can't-miss-prospect like Crosby or Ovenchkin (sp?)... TBay's time is now (or the next few years) and CBJ have all the time in the world (well, maybe not all the time)

    To answer your question about him become a stud - it depends what your definition of a stud is?!? I think he will be a good two-way centre and will play the role of instigator to perfection. He has great size and is very strong on the puck and his play away from it is miles ahead of schedule. To compare him to someone already playing... mmmmmm, maybe someone like a Keith Primeau and in my book, thats some stud... IMO.
     
  3. I really like Svitov. Good defensive player, and he really started to click offensively w/Zherdev the last few games of the season.

    The Zherdev-Svitov-Malhotra line played well together.
     
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    If by stud you mean, a very good defensive player with size and 20-30 points a year then yes. I however do not think that is a stud, nor do I think he is anywhere close to being a stud.
     
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    Svitov could be a Bobby Holik-type player in the future. He's got a good defensive game and the size and nastiness to compliment it. He won't be a huge scorer but he should chip in 40 or 50 points a season. I can see him being a Selke candidate when he hits his prime, and a guy people will hate to play against.
     
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    what a shocker, the only one bashing him is a tampa fan. didnt see that coming. come on, 20-30 pts. yea, he isnt an offensive threat like zherdev, but he is gonna score more than that. lets say he is on the first line next year with nash and z. you think he scores 20 pts still. i dont.
     
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    You assume since his handle is Vincent_TheGreat that he roots for the Lightning? He's a Leafs fan. Just look at his profile.

    When Svitov was drafted, Dudley expected him to score 50-60 pts a year and play a physical game. He had "Top line center" written all over him. Now it looks as though he'll pan out to play on the 3rd line of Columbus (maybe a PK specialist). Hardly a stud player. On the other hand, he's still young and may pick up the work ethic and become a reliable 2nd line center.
     
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    I think what is hurting Svitov is that he was hailed as the most ready player for the NHL in his draft year.

    After seeing him this year in the AHL and NHL, this couldn't be farther from the truth as even TODAY, I don't think he is ready yet. Some people were on drugs because this guy is very raw. His hands and coordination can still use a little more growing before he can be truly effective at doing anything in the NHL.

    Instead of pimping him as a ready-to-go player, some scouts should have had a clue that this guy is in truth a real project. He's got 70-80 points upside and the downside is that of a career journeyman 4th liner. Most likely, he'll provide 45-50 points a year with abrasive, physical two-way play.

    He can really become a very valuable player if he develops well.

    I find Vincent_TheGreat's projection to be pessimistic but not inconceivable. The guy has truly shown he is capable of great things but also of being a waste of space.
     
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    Primeau might not put up the numbers he once did - although he has scored 0.70 points a season for over 13 years now (GP 900 - G 265 - A 342 - PTS 612 - +/- +124 - PIM 1535 GOOD NUMBERS) plus the "C" on a team full with so much veteran talent/experience/leadership... thats a stud... Primeau's career's gotta impress you a bit!?!

    I see Svitov having that kinda career and has a Primeau-style of game... and c'mon, being center (or the D specialist) on a line with Nash & Zherdev gotta net you some points - I say 50-60 points next season.
     
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    Yeah, I think so. I think if a coach can get the laziness out of him he should be a good one. But people have also been saying that about Chris Gratton forever.
     
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    People seem to forget that he lost a year of development after being put in the army. Add that with TB's farm situation, and he hasn't played much hockey in the last two years. I believe he was scratched for an entire month before being traded to Columbus. He game grew quite a bit once he started to get going here. In the last month of the season, he was much more consistant. He was playing the body more and he showed some signs of life in the offensive zone.

    I think he'll turn into a complete shutdown center. Second or third line depending on depth and the like. 50 points will probably be his ceiling, though.
     
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    From the information i have gathered in this thread as well as my knowledge of Svitov from past information i have come to a judgement on Svitov that in my mind is fair. Svitov will become a two way centre on the 2nd line who will produce roughly 35 to 55 pts a year. He seems to be improving as he has not played much hockey in the past couple of years. And finally to answer my own question of whether or not he will become a stud forward the anwswer is he will not become a stud but will be a valuable asset to have on Columbus.
     
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    Actually I am a Nucks fan, Vinny is my fav player, but TB is not my fav team!
     
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    I REALLY like Svitov, but wasn't heartbroken when TB traded him.

    Quite honestly, the guy has remarkable raw tools. He's strong on his skates, has pretty good vision, is above-avg defensively already, and his wrister is VERY underrated.

    However, his problem in Tampa was that he had no drive. He was like a lamb on his skates and we never saw the rugged Svitov that he was billed upon drafted.

    It seems so easy to correct, doesn't it?

    Don't be so sure.

    With Omsk, he was pigeonholed as a checking liner. With TB, he was a checking liner. With Russia in the WJCs, he was a checking liner. With Hamilton, word was from Jarvis that his offensive game and overall drive really came around. So much so TB recalled him earlier than expected, expecting to see this "new" Alexander Svitov. Nothing.

    I watched him a lot on the dish with CLB and he was doing the same things. He plays like he's a kid in a men's league (which is true, but doesn't have to be played that way) in that he's very tentative and unaggressive offensively. He's actually TOO quick to return to defensive responsibilities. He stays TOO high in the slot when he could park his rump in front of the blue ice and get scoring chances. He also has a hard time finding passing lanes to set up a shot for himself. He stays in the high slot ready to get back - just like he did on the bottom lines in Omsk and TB.

    If he can get that confidence and drive to play aggressively both offensively and physically, he could be the player billed when drafted. However, until I see that from him, sadly I project him to be a 25-30 point defensive forward.
     
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    I have never been too impressed with Svitov since the beginings. The kid has tools and skill that makes scouts drool. On paper he seems to be the ideal #3 pick. But he has no drive or whatever you would like to describe it as. I thought from day one that he wouldn't turn to be the #1 or #2 center like 99% of people projected him to be. I said he would be a 25-30 point guy and I almost got shot. Unless things change, my prediction still stand. He is still young, but unless something changes, he will be no more than a checker in the league. Maybe he needs a kick in the butt, maybe another change of scenery I don't know.
     
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