Canucks should take that as Manning is UFA at the end of the season. Also saves them $1 million against the cap this season as well. think the canucks would love any deal that keeps the cap hit close this season, but leaves them no cap hit next season. Or same term but lower cap hit. Cause, they aren't getting rid of his contract without taking something back.How about local BC kid Brandon Manning!
Rumor: Sven Baertschi request trade - update cleared WAIVERS
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More money to throw at Tyson Barrie (more realistically Justin Schultz) next summer, Benning is in
Kovalchuck has interested teams now that he's a free agent. But, he's in a completely different financial situation that Sven. Per cap friendly, Kovy has $67 million in career NHL earnings, plus whatever he made in Russia for those 5 years, which would be like $40-$50 million.
Rather Have Benning and why are we adding the higher pick ? Benning is a good player despite what you here from Oilers fans . He just gets his head caved in if he is anymore then a #5 or 6 D but on a bottom pairing he is very good .
Pretty much can’t. That was an issue coming into this season. Too many teams tight to the cap. Limits the kinds of deals you can make. Cap hit in cap hit out. Has to balance.
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Who is this more embarrassing for? The player who demands a trade but no team wants him? Or the GM who signed a player to a contract no other team will touch for free?
To be fair. The contract was signed before Baertschi got semi perma concussed. It wasn’t a terrible deal at the time.
Looks bad on both.
Player thinks he should be in the NHL, but his contract is keeping teams away. So, can't be complaining about being in the A as he has cleared waivers twice. And no team has come up with an offer that keeps the Canucks cap neutral (ala the Spooner for Gagner deal).
GM, another deal that has gone sideways. A gamble in the sense Sven had 2 RFA years left when he signed. Barely a 0.5 PPG guy. Had time to let another year go by before you tried signing UFA years. But, didn't, thus there is he extra year on the contract which pretty much makes him a tough trade. So, he's eating up $2.4 mill of cap space and leaving you with little wiggle room to do anything to the roster.
I think you explained pretty well why it doesn't make sense for the Oilers.
Seems like the only way they move him is if they retain salary which could be preferable to buying him out in the summer.
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totally agree, they are trying to move him just no suitors. The problem is everyone so close to the cap.
I’m a bit surprised that no deal has been made though I really think he’s still serviceable. Hopefully the Canucks can work something out.
He's available for sure but most likely will spend the year in Utica helping the Canuck prospects.
Better chance he gets traded in off-season or TDL next year when his contract is expiring.
Still a decent top 9 player, putting up points and dominating in the AHL to prove that. Injury has derailed his career but has been healthy this year. contract is the problem.
Can probably put up 15 goals- 30 assists and not be a liability in an 82 game span. He needs to play on the PP though to really maximize the asset.
Doubt teams will come calling for him at the tdl. He’s more an off season trade due to the remaining year in his contract.
teams wants the offseason to see if they can upgrade their roster before circling back on guys with contracts.
Teams might get a better player for an extra $1 mill or so in cap hit so they’d rather conserve the cap hit now before committing to someone like Sven.
no chance straight up he would command a third round pick. You’re looking at 6/7th round of the Canucks hope to move the entire contract while taking back a minor league contract.
canucks want the cap space moving him would free up.
For sure. The value of the trade for the canucks is the cap space it would free up. They would trade him for no return if they could. 7th round pick and a minor league contract would best case.
Sven counts like $3.4 in cap space for next season. If you can get someone better for $5 mill or so, you’d rather have that $3.4 mill available so that you can add the extra $1.6 mill to it and get the better player rather than having to find the entire $5 mill to get that player.
Understood, which is 1) why he is available for basically free in a trade, and 2) why twice nobody has taken him off waivers for free.
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Are the Canucks not interested in retaining on him at all? Or are they just holding off to see how things go till the TDL?
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He was a decent player with flashes of being a good player. His last call up wasnt good at all.... hes a player that has had his bell rung too many times and he played like it. Too bad but no value here
Here’s where they are with Sven cap wise.
In the A he counts about $2.3 against the cap because they are allowed $1.075 mill to bury.
a buyout would cost them $1.75 mill next season then $800k the following year because they front loaded his contract. He is only owed $2.4 mill in salary next season.
so retention is an option but I think they would hold off on retaining on him until the off season with the hopes that someone will take the entire contract.
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He’s not getting bought out, Aqualini hates dead money and they are already paying Lu and Spoon...
my guess is that by the tdl it’s prettt much a playoff plus one year which isn’t awful to swallow.
He’s been healthy and effective all year and probably has some value as limited as it is.
my guess is that by the tdl it’s prettt much a playoff plus one year which isn’t awful to swallow.
He’s been healthy and effective all year and probably has some value as limited as it is.
