Suzuki or Frost
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What exact levels (multiple) would that be?
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Which of the two is more likely to stick at center?
Right now, I'd say neither, so I won't vote. I think as wingers they are both probably good 2nd line wingers/lower-end first line guys. If one of the two was able to stick at center, I think that would give them a clear advantage over the other, but I don't think either will, so I think its too close to call for now.
Right now, I'd say neither, so I won't vote. I think as wingers they are both probably good 2nd line wingers/lower-end first line guys. If one of the two was able to stick at center, I think that would give them a clear advantage over the other, but I don't think either will, so I think its too close to call for now.
Pretty much this and it's basically a coinflip, which I wish would be an option.
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This too
Wish Suzuki would have more chance at center, the couple of games he played this year were his best games
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Every year in the OHL is just a flat out lie.
As for the pros, not sure how you came to that conclusion considering the sample size, result so far.
This coming from a poster (me) that voted for Frost.
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how is it so far in pros when they both have the same ppg/60 but Suzuki with more games played, Wouldn't it be in advantage of Suzuki ? just asking
Love Frost and Suzuki equally, but your statement is straight up a lie
It's fact, Frost did more with less and was the best player in the OHL the last two years he was there. Only Kryou was close
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and..... you ignore that both played in the NHL.....and that Suzuki never played in the AHL.....
both are in the NHL, why are you comparing OHL ?
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You said every year? Post draft was close, but Frost did not do more with less. Compare the 17/18 teams these two played on. The Soo was much deeper talent wise than Owen Sound, not even close. Stop with the outright lies.
Only time Suzuki had more talent was post trade deadline (18/19) when he was sent to Guelph. His playoff run that year was something to behold.
Not sure how you have this year as Frost > Suzuki either. However I'm willing to hear the argument.
Nick Suzuki is also a pretty cool name too, though. It's like, east coast vs. west coast: the grizzled snowman against the SoCal surfer. Both equally good names, just different styles to them.
I don't remember ever seeing Frost play, nor do I know if he's any good. I've seen Suzuki play and like his game, but I don't think he's anything special. So I guess I have to vote Suzuki.
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If you admittedly dont have enough knowledge to form an opinion on the subject, you don't HAVE to vote at all, just saying.
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I'll take either one of them on my team any day, both awesome players. Being a Habs fan I'm a little bias to Suzuki, think he's going to have an awesome career. But the same for Frost, he's fit right into that Philly lineup, and the kid can friggin score. Tough to pick one
Really close. I'd say Frost, but it's basically a coinflip.
Had make that poll more than a year back, was pretty close between the 3. Still is.
Frost vs Suzuki vs Kyrou
Had make that poll more than a year back, was pretty close between the 3. Still is.
Frost vs Suzuki vs Kyrou
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Did you even follow the OHL? Frost never did more with less and fact is that he did not even do better, nor was he by far the best player in that league with only Kyrou being close.
2016-17:
Suzuki had 45 goals and 96 pts in 65 regular season games. Lead his team in playoffs with 23 pts in 17 games.
Frost had 20 goals and 62 pts in 67 regular season games. 8 pts in 11 games in the playoffs.
Clear edge to Suzuki that year.
2017-18:
Suzuki had 42 goals and 100 pts in 64 regular season games. 12 pts in 11 games in the playoffs.
Frost had 42 goals and 112 pts in 67 regular season games. 29 pts in 24 games in the playoffs but trailed behind teammates Boris Katchouk who led the team with 37 pts in 24 games and Taylor Raddysh with 34 pts in 24 games.
Frost had the better season, but can't claim that he did more with less. He wasn't even his team's top performer during the playoffs and lost to a Hamilton team lead by Robert Thomas (who also was a top performer in the OHL in the last two years and arguably more successful as the OHL playoff MVP that year, so not sure how you came up with your statement that only Kyrou came close to Frost).
2018-19:
Suzuki had 34 goals and 94 pts in 59 regular season games. Lead his team to the championship with 42 points in 24 playoffs games and was the OHL playoff MVP with a dominant performance. The second best player on that team was his linemate Ratcliffe, with 30 pts in 24 games.
Frost had 37 goals and 109 pts in 58 regular season games. Led his team with 18 pts in 11 games in the playoffs, but lost to a Saginaw team that Suzuki's Guelph team beat. There was also a one year younger Barrett Hayton on Frost's team with a strong showing of his own with 16 pts in 11 playoffs games and 26 goals, 66 pts in 39 regular season games.
Frost had a better regular season, but not sure how you can claim that he did it with less. He had another very strong player in Hayton (a 1st round 5th overall draft pick) on his team. Suzuki on the other hand started the year playing on a much weaker team with Kevin Hancock (undrafted and only signed to a AHL contract) as the second best player on his team.
One can also easily argue that Suzuki did more than Frost last year as the OHL playoff MVP, leading his team to a championship. Performance during the playoffs when it counts the most is way more valuable than performance during regular season.
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Honoring my avatar *), I have to say Suzuki!
*) That's me going flat out through an easy corner on my good 'ol (R.I.P... I crashed it in Pyrenees a few years ago) K5 GSX-R-1000
*) That's me going flat out through an easy corner on my good 'ol (R.I.P... I crashed it in Pyrenees a few years ago) K5 GSX-R-1000
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