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underrated postMight as well join our devils he’s going to hell anyways lol.
underrated postMight as well join our devils he’s going to hell anyways lol.
Big difference between dog fights and beating the hell out of your wife guy should be in prison still.I'm fine with Voynov coming back. He lost a lot of money and prime career years for his actions. If Mike Vick can have dog fights and come back to the NFL I'm fine with Voynov returning to North America as long as he stays out of trouble. People deserve second chances. Sometimes third.
Sounds very similar to what he did to his wife.Right?!
Hey everyone! Get over here while he's still down and kick him some more!
Are you trying to argue that people are accusing Voynov of beating his wife simply because he is Russian?Crime is crime and when you have served the penalty, you are a free man. Not a criminal.
People who are still yelling after him won't understand what human rights are.
But hey, he is a Russian! They are all natural born criminals and wife-beaters.
Ironically, the Devils are in a place more like Limbo than Hell.Might as well join our devils he’s going to hell anyways lol.
Quite possibly the dumbest post I've seen on HF.Crime is crime and when you have served the penalty, you are a free man. Not a criminal.
People who are still yelling after him won't understand what human rights are.
But hey, he is a Russian! They are all natural born criminals and wife-beaters.
I think he's arguing that refusing to hire a wife beater is a human rights violation.Are you trying to argue that people are accusing Voynov of beating his wife simply because he is Russian?
Quite possibly the dumbest post I've seen on HF.
I think he's arguing that refusing to hire a wife beater is a human rights violation.
In most jobs in small circles where you are paid millions of dollars something, like beating your wife and getting deported for it, would leak out, and you wouldn't get an interview. Again, these things are collectively bargained, and certain rights are given up in these situations.Obviously it's not a human rights violation, but that poster's premise is correct. In almost every circumstance it's illegal for an employer to inquire about an arrest that didn't result in a conviction, or a conviction that was later dismissed. As it stands now Voynov has no conviction against him.
In most jobs in small circles where you are paid millions of dollars something, like beating your wife and getting deported for it, would leak out, and you wouldn't get an interview. Again, these things are collectively bargained, and certain rights are given up in these situations.
Since the NHL is a massive public relations corporation that relies on selling the ticket, they can argue that they won't hire him because it would hurt their bottom line because he isn't marketable. The weird thing about pro-sports is that their performance isn't just about there ability on the ice or playing field. In many ways, people are paid as performers because they bring an audience. Although, obviously, attendance and winning are somewhat intertwined.I could be mistaken, but the CBA only deals with suspensions at it pertains to this situation. Once the suspension is served, it would be illegal for an NHL team not to hire Voynov because of his record.
But you are correct about small circles. Teams not wanting any part of him will just forgo his services for whatever other reasons they can come up with.
In most jobs in small circles where you are paid millions of dollars something, like beating your wife and getting deported for it, would leak out, and you wouldn't get an interview. Again, these things are collectively bargained, and certain rights are given up in these situations.
Fine, forced to leave the country voluntarily or face prosecution and eventual deportation.Voynov was never deported. #factcheck
Voynov was never deported. #factcheck
Because he left before the process could be completed. Let’s not forget that fact.
Just as a previous poster saying his criminal record was expunged doesn’t eliminate the fact the incident happened, despite your liking the post. That doesn’t erase it from memories. It doesn’t mean it didn’t take place.
And none of these things mean that people have to be okay with him now. Just like it’s your decision to support him, despite his history of spousal abuse, it’s their decision to not want him to play in a league they are passionate about. Not that either of you have much say in it. That’s above our heads. Personally, I hope my GM stays away. I hope all the GM’s do. It sends the wrong message, in my opinion. Nothing about his actions suggest he regrets what he did. To me, it comes across as him trying to move past it, and not accept responsibility.
Moral turpitude is collectively bargained and both a valid reason for terminating a contract and for not wanting to hire someone. If a team feels that he hasn’t taken the proper steps to rehabilitate himself, they’re well within their rights to not hire him.I could be mistaken, but the CBA only deals with suspensions at it pertains to this situation. Once the suspension is served, it would be illegal for an NHL team not to hire Voynov because of his record.
But you are correct about small circles. Teams not wanting any part of him will just forgo his services for whatever other reasons they can come up with.
His work Visa was no longer valid it would have been illegal for him to stay so yes I guess he would have ended up getting deported .Because he left before the process could be completed. Let’s not forget that fact.
Just as a previous poster saying his criminal record was expunged doesn’t eliminate the fact the incident happened, despite your liking the post. That doesn’t erase it from memories. It doesn’t mean it didn’t take place.
And none of these things mean that people have to be okay with him now. Just like it’s your decision to support him, despite his history of spousal abuse, it’s their decision to not want him to play in a league they are passionate about. Not that either of you have much say in it. That’s above our heads. Personally, I hope my GM stays away. I hope all the GM’s do. It sends the wrong message, in my opinion. Nothing about his actions suggest he regrets what he did. To me, it comes across as him trying to move past it, and not accept responsibility.
Crime is crime and when you have served the penalty, you are a free man. Not a criminal.
People who are still yelling after him won't understand what human rights are.
But hey, he is a Russian! They are all natural born criminals and wife-beaters.
Right?!
Hey everyone! Get over here while he's still down and kick him some more!
I could be mistaken, but the CBA only deals with suspensions at it pertains to this situation. Once they suspension is served, it would be illegal for an NHL team not to hire Voynov because of his record.
But you are correct about small circles. Teams not wanting any part of him will just forgo his services for whatever other reasons they can come up with.
Big difference between dog fights and beating the hell out of your wife guy should be in prison still.