Super Team Tournament Voting [Rof16 complete]

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Round of 16- Pick one from each match-up

Poll closed May 10, 2020.
  1. [1] Ottawa Senators

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. [1] Toronto Maple Leafs

    14 vote(s)
    70.0%
  3. [2] Arizona Coyotes

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
  4. [2] Colorado Avalanche

    13 vote(s)
    65.0%
  5. [3] Boston Bruins

    15 vote(s)
    75.0%
  6. [3] New York Islanders

    4 vote(s)
    20.0%
  7. [4] Los Angeles Kings

    15 vote(s)
    75.0%
  8. [4] Detroit Red Wings

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  9. [5] Dallas Stars

    10 vote(s)
    50.0%
  10. [5] Montreal Canadiens

    8 vote(s)
    40.0%
  11. [6] Columbus Blue Jackets

    13 vote(s)
    65.0%
  12. [6] Winnipeg Jets

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
  13. [7] Edmonton Oilers

    8 vote(s)
    40.0%
  14. [7] Vegas Golden Knights

    12 vote(s)
    60.0%
  15. [8] Vancouver Canucks

    12 vote(s)
    60.0%
  16. [8] New York Rangers

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
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  1. Makaveli Registered User

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    This thread will be used for voting and debating your matchups. Voting for the Round of 16 will CLOSE Sunday, May 10th @ 3:30PM eastern. The match-ups for the round of 16 will be as follows;

    Match-up #1:
    Ottawa - @BumDum
    vs
    Toronto - @hockeynorth

    Match-up #2:
    Arizona - @PaulBissonnette
    vs
    Colorado - @m0pe

    Match-up #3:
    Boston - @FanofBadHockeyTeam

    vs
    New York Islanders - @Kent Nilsson

    Match-up #4:
    Los Angeles - @Makaveli

    vs
    Detroit - @Gibby

    Match-up #5:
    Dallas - @LatvianTwist

    vs
    Montreal - @OB5

    Match-up #6:
    Columbus - @Blinny

    vs
    Winnipeg - @Panda Bear

    Match-up #7:
    Edmonton - @Llamamoto49
    vs
    Vegas - @AveryStar4Eva

    Match-up #8:
    Vancouver - @Retinalz

    vs
    New York Rangers - @Messrules11
     
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    MATCH-UP #1

    :sens
    Marchand - Backstrom - P. Kane
    Marchessault - Toews - Arvidsson
    Atkinson - Dubois - Oshie
    Tierney - Necas - Labanc

    Provorov - Spurgeon
    Girard - Larsson
    Bear - Martinez

    Holtby
    Saros

    vs


    :leafs
    Svechnikov - Malkin - Rust
    Gaudreau - Karlsson - Bjorkstrand
    Parise - Hischier - Hornqvist
    Mangiapane - Henrique - D. Brown

    Josi - McAvoy
    Theodore - Fox
    Dunn - Johnson

    Hellebuyck
    Crawford

    MATCH-UP#2

    :coyotes
    Skinner - Pettersson - Ovechkin
    Rakell - Getzlaf - Kessel
    Hall - E. Staal - Boeser
    Greenway - Koivu - Kassian

    Chabot - Burns
    Yandle - Ristolainen
    Chychrun - Schultz

    Fleury
    Merzlikins

    vs


    :avs
    Schwartz - Bergeron - Stone
    Zucker - Couturier - Gallagher
    Hyman - Danault - Coleman
    Bonino - Backlund - Nichsuhkin

    Giordano - Pesce
    Lindholm - Marino
    Pelech - Hamonic

    Price
    Blackwood


    MATCH-UP #3:

    :bruins
    Saad - Matthews - W. Nylander
    E. Kane - Couture - Tarasenko
    Van Riemsdyk - Krejci - Zadina
    Haula - Suzuki - Zuccarello

    Ekman Larsson - Jones
    Fowler - Letang
    Vlasic - Faulk

    Bobrovsky
    Grubauer

    vs

    :isles
    M. Tkachuk - Dvorak - Marner
    Kadri - Larkin - Thomas
    Domi - Horvat - Hintz
    Josh Anderson - Gourde - Athanasiou

    Ekholm - Carlson
    Dumoulin - Dumba
    Zadorov -Hronek

    Hart
    Samsonov

    MATCH-UP #4:

    :kings
    B. Tkachuk - Eichel - Pastrňák
    Guentzel - Giroux - Fiala
    Olofsson - Nugent-Hopkins - Buchnevich
    McCann - Eller - Dzingel

    McDonagh - Makar
    Muzzin - Trouba
    Orlov - Shattenkirk

    Andersen
    Koskinen


    vs

    :wings
    Schenn - Crosby - Konecny
    Burakovsky - Point - Wilson
    Killorn - Pageau - Kapanen
    Lemieux - Cizikas - Reaves

    Suter - Karlsson
    Keith - Subban
    Chara - Pionk

    Kuemper
    Raanta


    MATCH-UP #5:

    :stars
    Connor - Seguin - Panarin
    Vrana - Hertl - Keller
    Kubalik - Cirelli - Gurianov
    Pearson - Hayes - Nyquist

    Slavin - Dahlin
    Lindell - Pulock
    Toews - Andersson

    Gibson
    Varlamov


    vs


    :habs
    Tatar - Stamkos - Forsberg
    Dadonov - Aho - Toffoli
    Kovalchuk - Barzal - Eberle
    Armia - Stastny - Perry

    Werenski - Klingberg
    Rielly - Vatanen
    Morrissey - Stralman

    Jarry
    Halak


    MATCH-UP #6:


    :cbj
    Huberdeau - Barkov -Voracek
    Hoffman - Monahan - Laine
    DeBrusk - Trochek - Lindholm
    Palat - Jenner - Jarnkrok

    Pietrangelo - Brodin
    Krug - Carlo
    Brodie - Goligoski

    Bishop
    Korpisalo


    vs


    :jets
    Pacioretty - McDavid - Perron
    Gusev - Zibanejad - Mantha
    Sanford - Nelson - Silfverberg
    N. Foligno - J. Staal - Donskoi

    Sanheim - Hamilton
    Graves - Ellis
    Weegar - Petry

    Rask
    Driedger


    MATCH-UP #7:


    :edmonton
    Landeskog - Draisaitl - Rantanen
    Lee - Kopitar - Wheeler
    Niederreiter - Johansen - Radulov
    Johnsson - Tyler Johnson - Yamamoto

    Klefbom - Parayko
    Nurse - Severson
    Hanifin - Savard

    Lehner
    Lundqvist


    vs


    :vegas
    Ehlers - Scheifele - R Smith
    Kreider - O'Rielly - Pavelski
    Bertuzzi - Duchene - Josh Bailey
    Beauvillier - Coyle - C Smith

    Hedman - S. Weber
    Schmidt - Niskanen
    Skjei - Manson

    Vasilevskiy
    Khudobin


    MATCH-UP #8:

    :nucks
    Teravainen - MacKinnon - Meier
    DeBrincat - J.T. Miller - Reinhart
    Duclair - R Strome - Garland
    Iaffalo - Hughes - Virtanen

    Hughes - Doughty
    Edler - DeAngelo
    Chariot - Tanev

    Binnington
    Markstrom


    vs


    :rangers
    Benn - Tavares - Kucherov
    Drouin - Kuznetsov - Palmieri
    Turris - D.Strome - Tuch
    Sheary - Granlund - C. Brown

    Heiskanen - Ekblad
    Sergachev - Myers
    Barrie - Butcher

    Murray
    Shesterkin​
     
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    @Gibby you're going downnnnn boyyyyy
     
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    Vote :avs over :coyotes!

    Simply put, our defense actually does their job of playing defense while the majority of theirs don't.

    Secondly, our offense is full of strong two-way players in their prime while their offense features a number of has-been stars.

    Vote Avs!
     
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    Vote :nucks

    We have The deeper team with a stronger top 9 and top 4, with better goaltending.
     
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    I have it on high authority that @LatvianTwist doesn't like ice cream.

    Hot damn my Cs are Stamkos-Aho-Barzal-Stastny
     
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    Vote :kings

    Eichel-Pasta is the most dynamic duo in the tournament. Our top 9 is dynamite. We are confident in our D group, any pair can be on the ice at any given time. They can bring the defense or push the offense. Andersen will be great for this team with that D group in front of him.


    LETS GO KINGS
     
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    Those EDM-VGK and DAL-MTL matchups are roughhhh.

    Some good teams going to have to go Round 1
     
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    :leafs should eat :sens alive in this battle of Ontario. This isn't even my biased thoughts here's how I feel it'd go down:

    Toronto's strengths:
    Depths of elite forwards (having multiple throughout top 9 and an elite shut down line on line 4)
    Best D in the game, really I think it is. And to top it off most have extensive playoff experience.
    My goalies are elite and have both played big playoff minutes

    Ottawa strengths:
    1st line
    Top 3 Cs

    My full thoughts on matchup:
    These Senators have a damn good first line, but is it even that much better than Gaudreau-Malkin-Svechnikov which Toronto could throw together? No. But instead Toronto spread their depth out to really rip through teams depth, with three extremely good scoring lines they'd excel in this matchup. Ottawas first line would really have to carry the load but they'll also be bearing down on Josi and McAvoy who are arguably one of the best top pairs here, and could easily hold their ground. Malkin line will have a tough matchup (though don't forge Rust went above a ppg this year too, he's no slouch) but with my top pair and them relying on Provorov/Spurgeon we should win it.

    Even if not out comes Jonny Hockey/The Cowboy/Bjork and that will decimate his second line. Gaudreau is one of the games premier offensive weapons and Bjorkstrand turned into an elite trigger man and possession beast and Karlsson can go toe to toe with old man Toews on the dot. Toews had very mediocre possession numbers this year and both my wingers have a clear edge. Not to mention my second pair blows his out of the water with Theodore being a Norris contender this year and Fox going crazy on offence. Larsson is not a good NHL dman, it's simple really. If you want to call Theodore inexperienced know he carries the load in Vegas, has nearly 300 regular season games and nearly 50 playoff games, that's a hardened vet number, and Theodore is a beast.

    Atkinson had 40 goals in other seasons, but if we want to play like that so did Parise, Hischier is a better NHL C than Dubois and Hornqvist has won multiple cups, while really showing up in the playoffs, this matchup really favours my line, but again my 3rd pair would walk his third pair, the D depth really pushes it.

    His 4th line are all question marks right now whereas all of mine had great years and can play anywhere in the lineup on a real cup team, that edge is clear.

    We both have a cup winner in the crease, but Holtby is faltering while Hellebuyck is blossoming and can carry a team, the crease battle should be crystal clear who has that edge.

    So overall you could maybe give him line 1 though I don't believe it, but I'd take 2-4, 1-3 on D and my goalies are better by far. It's the power of depth and for that Toronto should handily win this matchup, dare I say sweep it. It's really quite unfortunate for Ottawa to run into this power house in round one because I quite liked the team, though they were't in my group of favourites.

    Toronto should easily win matchup 1
     
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    Hockeynorth incoming wth his feelings on every matchup and pros/cons... stay tuned.
     
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    Voting is going to be tough lol
     
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    :vegas

    Vote for Vegas over Edmonton! Both are great teams, so it’s sad to see one go in the first round, but I believe we have the more we’ll rounded and defensive team. It’s going to be tough scoring with last years Vezina, Selke, and Norris winner on my side.
     
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    how did you steal Gio from me
     
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    :edmonton


    Landeskog - Draisaitl - Rantanen >>>>> Ehlers - Scheifele - R Smith
    Lee - Kopitar - Wheeler >>> Kreider - O'Rielly - Pavelski
    Niederreiter - Johansen - Radulov >> Bertuzzi - Duchene - Josh Bailey
    Johnsson - Johnson - Yamamoto >>> Beauvillier - Coyle - C Smith

    As good as Vegas is, his offense doesn't come anywhere close to mine.
    (Plus, our team doesn't have a single player below 6'1 except for the midget line, so....)


    Vote for us!
     
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    I guess you're going to have to vote for me over him....
     
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    I actually don’t like ice cream :laugh:

    Vote :stars

    Our center depth is equally as good: Seguin - Hertl - Cirelli - Hayes

    We also feel that we outclass Montreal at every winger position. Our defense is also superior (hint - they can actually play defense). And our biggest advantage is goaltending, where we have a top 3 starter while Montreal is starting a guy who could end up getting waived next offseason.

    Vote :stars
     
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    Matchup 2 thoughts:

    I really love Arizona's team and they were in my favourites, but this was one of the worst possible matchups they could've gotten in round one for their build.

    Pros:
    Arizona:
    Elite offensive weapons
    Offensive blue line
    C depth
    Some nastiness

    Colorado:
    Elite 2 way team
    C depth
    Top 6 can all play wherever
    Almost all had great years

    Cons:
    Arizona:
    Will struggle in own zone for the most part
    D is very run and gun and will get caught
    Some players who had huge down years playing big roles

    Colorado:
    Will likely struggle to score
    Depth on wings on lines 3/4 leaves more to be desired along with 4-6D in their roles
    How good can Price be?

    I like 2/3rds of Zona's top line unfortunately Skinner was brutal this year, and the top group on the other side should neutralize you, BUT I still think your top pair would skate theirs into the ground and take the edge in this matchup so I call both a wash. Colorados second line is better in both zones. I don't think Colorados third line can handle Arizonas, the players are good but not against elites like this, lots would be on Danault vs Staal. These 4th lines are extremely close, but I take Colorados simple due to it's ability to play up. I think Colorados 2nd pair is better but Arizonas 3rd pair, and I have big question marks about Price but both goalies have shown up in the playoffs and both have a young goalie so it's extremely close.

    Overall this is one of the closest battles and a story of two very different and opposed teams matching up, my vote is very liquid on this one and will likely change a half dozen times before being final. I'll really need some convincing so for now it's 51% Colorado - 49% Arizona for me. It will likely keep changing as I read though
     
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    Tbh I had him ahead by a hair...but then he lost 2 hairs for lying...you do the math
     
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    My bolded is very debatable, but your teams great, I have to look at that matchup
     
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    You lost me when you said you had him ahead by a hair...
     
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    Match Up 3 thoughts:
    Nooooooooo my London Knights team...
    Boston Pros:
    D is awesome
    Great top 9 depth I actually don't know how you did this
    Cs are all good

    Islanders pros:
    Familiarity
    I think that top line could still be awesome
    Again unreal depth and idk how
    Defense

    Boston cons:
    I don't like your 4th line
    you're going to get hit by me for having Bob
    Vlasic is done

    Islanders cons:
    weak C depth (gourde... really?)
    Question marks in goal

    So at first glance I loved Boston and had them easily winning, but after looking close, I think NYI might actually have the edge on depth, though NYI gets docked BIG TIME for not having an elite C, so does Boston for Bobs season. This matchup is conflicting too. Ultimately, I love l1 on both but Bostons is just better at the NHL level for sure, same for L2, but L3 I have to take NYI and L 4 would be if not for Gourde, but Gourde is at C so Boston. D1 on both teams are about even for this season, but Bostons I prefer overall, same for D 2 but I'm actually taking NYI D3, and calling the goalies a wash as I wouldn't want either on my cup team for this year. Both have question marks related to their tandems for the playoffs. Ultimately I think Boston would win, but I can definitely be swayed again
     
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    Ristolainen Schultz Burns and Yandle can't play D...need i say more
     
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    Yep, that did it for me. I gave you the edge for that series.


    I seriously wish we could swap around the 7 and 8 matchups. Both Vegas and Edmonton were some of my favourite teams, and no offense to the teams in matchup 8, but they were near the bottom. I feel like a really good team (potentially mine) could be out after the first round because of this.
     
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    Umm, no, you don’t. My top line has elite scoring and playmaking. My 2nd line will destroy your youngsters. On the 3rd line Tuch will put your guys through the boards and I have the better Strome. Goalies? How many cups does your guy have? 0, and it’ll stay that way. Rangers kick Vancouver’s ass just like in ‘94.
     
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    Matchup 4 thoughts:
    If I wanted to take out LA who would I want going against them, well, probably one of the top defensive teams up front. @Makaveli why'd you give yourself this matchup...
    LA pros:
    - Best line right now
    - Solid C depth
    - Decent top 6
    - Solid if unspectacular D depth

    Detroit pros:
    - Positional versatility especially with Cs
    - Defensive competence up front
    - They'd be a pain (agitators)
    - D depth has bug names

    La cons:
    - I really dont like your 4th line for this
    - Andersen in clutch situations

    Detroit cons:
    - Your 4th line is just as bad in this
    - How good can your goalies really be

    Jeez this matchup sucks for both teams and honestly I really need to look at it closer and may change but LA is among my favourites:
    La Line 1 > Detroit line 1 but I think Detroits top line has the defensive competence to actually negate LAs... it'd be really tight I'll still give LA the edge though. Playoff Crosby is the best player though.
    LA line 2 > Detroit line 2... it's really not close, you're relying on people loving Wilson but unfortunately I feel he's a depth player for this comp, and I don't like burakovsky, but I loveeee Point
    Detroit line 3 > LA line 3, so I don't like Buchnevich either and while LAs line 3 is strong Detroits line 3 will check LA into the ground and totally neutralize so Im going them the edge.
    4th lines... I dont want to talk about either but I'm picking the line that has a bit more skill here, not the bangers trying to hold off David Pastrnak
    D1... I call both a wash. I still love Karlsson and just dont think San Jose is his best fit.
    D2... I'm still undecided because I prefer Detroit but it may simply be name value at this point and LAs had much better seasons
    D3... they're almost the exact same, but I take LA simply because I think Chara will struggle against LA. Overall D is a wash for now until I'm convinced

    G... I don't think either group wins it all, but I'd pick LAs as of now simply because I take the devil I know vs the devil I dont

    LA has the edge for me for now but jeez these are so close man, it's brutal the teams that will bow out
     
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