Transfer: Summer Transfer news and rumors discussion part 6

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  1. Fro

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    IDK, when fans of other teams, and some that are rivals, say he is good...maybe he is
     
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    Why would he move to a small club that hasn't made the CL finals? Spurs are obviously bigger and more prestigious.
     
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    money and he's a psg legend lol

    I think he even said he could've left spurs if they won the CL this year, so I don't think he is tied down to loyalty.
     
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    Except they're not saying he's good. They're saying he's one of the best. There's a difference.
     
  5. Live in the Now

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    The fans of their greatest rivals are clearly right.

    Everyone else in the world is clearly wrong.
     
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    Stupid logic. Unless you also agree the majority of Americans are right to vote Trump.
     
  7. Fro

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    Wow, way to make an incredible stretch there...
     
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    No, that's stupid logic. I think everyone knows how I feel about that guy, and I would agree that the majority of Americans are stupid if we want to go down that road.

    The fans of Spurs greatest rival are deciding to ignore the achievements Poch made with an average club because they want to ignore them. That's alright, but you can't expect fans of other teams who know Spurs are an average club, who know that Spurs have been a perennial joke club, to be similarly unable to acknowledge those accomplishments. The fact is that he took them from a similar level as Everton to their current level.

    They still have a joke chairman and I don't care what stadium they built. A lot of the accomplishments Poch has had are in spite of their club structure. That doesn't mean his accomplishments will be particularly lasting when he's gone, but that isn't a strike to hold against a good manager because Ferguson's achievements weren't lasting either. They have a team that will be pretty good, potentially great as long as Poch is there.
     
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    They were finishing top 6 above Liverpool prior to Poch joining. Stop with the exaggerations to make it sound like Tottenham were horrible.
     
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    Almost half of American adults didn't vote in their last presidential election and of those who did, fewer voted for Trump than for his opponent. Maybe not the best analogy.
     
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  11. Live in the Now

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    What does that mean exactly? They finished ahead of Liverpool when they had owners who ruined the club, leading to players being sold with a lack of money to replace them. Then they finished ahead of Liverpool when they had owners who knew nothing about football and turned the club over to a Spurs DoF reject.

    They were a joke club that never had real success. With Poch they finished 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th when resting players for important CL games.
     
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    It means they weren't as bad as you are making it out to be.
     
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    And Kane being out injured for 2 months in the spring
     
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    A great team has depth to handle injuries. Tottenham is a super club apparently on here so it shouldn't be an excuse that they didn't have quality backup for him.
     
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    They had never been in the Champions League or old European Cup for two straight seasons ever before he got there.

    As for what he actually accomplished, they spent -23m net in the first two seasons he was there and qualified for the CL. There are very few managers who could accomplish this. Kane had never done a single thing in football before he got there and wasn't exactly successful on any loan spell. Prior to this summer he has spent 7m net with a title challenge, four straight seasons of CL football, and a CL final to show for it.

    Anyone who doesn't see that accomplishment just doesn't want to see it.
     
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    That's all well and good but how does that make him one of the best managers in the world?

    Simeone won La Liga and went to the CL finals twice against two teams that are considered the best in the world that also contained the two best players in the world yet he's not even close to Poch's level apparently by the experts on here.
     
  17. Live in the Now

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    Simeone was considered a top manager the instant they made the CL final. I don't know if the old threads are here, but if they are you should read them. He now refuses to adjust his football to the more attacking game played now, and his teams haven't been quite as good.
     
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    Mostly because they sold off a ton of dead weight to lower table teams for 15 each. I mean, yeah, he didn't buy too big, but it's not like they didn't spend still.

    And that 7m net spend number is pulled out of your ass

    His team finished higher in its league than Tottenham did. By two places.
     
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    Would you rate Poch above Simeone?

    I mean we have someone calling Poch top 3.

    Even Sarri has won more than Poch.
     
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    Lol

    I am just saying don't toot your own horn when you haven't won anything since God knows when and you have to bargain hunt at Walmart because you have the budget equivalent to a single mom.
     
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    God knows when? They just won a trophy in 2017.
     
  22. Live in the Now

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    Yeah, like I made that up. Would never do that. Added it all together from Wikipedia.

    Tottenham finished better in the CL than them. By a lot more than two places. Not sure you're aware of the bombs that Atletico has been signing for huge money.

    No. To be fair, I never said that in the first place.
     
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    Oooo wow an FA cup!!!!! Surely hit big times!!! I am talking about a real trophy like a Premier League.
     
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    Yes it's so easy that you wonder how come Tottenham has won it or any trophies recently. Especially with their super team and super manager.
     
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    When did I proclaim Tottenham are considered a big club? My point is Arsenal fans are in no position to call other teams "smaller" when they can't afford to buy new players and they don't win anything.
     
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