Burnt Biscuits
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Player Discussion Summer Homework (Individual Player Improvement)
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russ99
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I’d think our fans should do some summer homework too.
It’s fine to be upset about how the season has gone, nobody’s happy about it, but as a group we’re being really annoying and petty.
Every thread mentions Hall, Eberle or Barzal. We need to accept that complaining about this continually doesn’t change anything, and doesn’t really accomplish anything either but making posters look lke the idiot dad in “Walk Hard” who keeps saying “the wrong kid died”.
Nobody owes us a Stanley Cup, they’re earned, and as you’ll see soon, it takes a ton of hard work and tough play. They aren’t going fall from the sky becuse we have McDavid, or because we may have had a few more offensive skill players than other teams. Defense, forechecking, goaltending and opportune goals win the cup, not tons of scoring chances on the rush. Those alleys to wheel on the rush close up, forwards in the crease get hit, and refs swallow their whistles.
Corsi has skewed our view of the game, first off it’s a team stat, not a player stat. Dividing a team number by 5, gives you diminishing results. No matter how much you possess the puck, the other team will possess it 40+ percent of the time, and how you play during that time determines if you win or lose just as much as when you have the puck. There are valuable players that may contribute less when we have the puck but contribute more when we don’t at forward and defense. Not to mention that rarely if ever does a pass out of the defensive zone automatically result in a goal, players on both teams play a part.
I’m really disappointed in us, we’re supppsed to be the knowledgeable hardcore Canadian fanbase and yet often times, only one viewpoint is accepted, alternative explanations are shunned, players scapegoated, and others put on ridiculous pedestals as “magical” or “dreamy”, trade ideas that all NHL GMs would laugh at, management, coaching, players deemed useless and incompetnent, often deemed as such before they work for the Oilers. It’s time to let it go for a new season.
Your rage doesn’t accomplish anything but make us look bad to other fans, set a bad example for the next generation of fans, and is making hockey less fun. We all love the Oilers but maybe it’s time to step away for awhile, realize there’s other things in life but constant vitriol, and come back next year refreshed, less judgemental, and pulling for our team, not pulling each other apart.
Stay classy Oilers fans.
It’s fine to be upset about how the season has gone, nobody’s happy about it, but as a group we’re being really annoying and petty.
Every thread mentions Hall, Eberle or Barzal. We need to accept that complaining about this continually doesn’t change anything, and doesn’t really accomplish anything either but making posters look lke the idiot dad in “Walk Hard” who keeps saying “the wrong kid died”.
Nobody owes us a Stanley Cup, they’re earned, and as you’ll see soon, it takes a ton of hard work and tough play. They aren’t going fall from the sky becuse we have McDavid, or because we may have had a few more offensive skill players than other teams. Defense, forechecking, goaltending and opportune goals win the cup, not tons of scoring chances on the rush. Those alleys to wheel on the rush close up, forwards in the crease get hit, and refs swallow their whistles.
Corsi has skewed our view of the game, first off it’s a team stat, not a player stat. Dividing a team number by 5, gives you diminishing results. No matter how much you possess the puck, the other team will possess it 40+ percent of the time, and how you play during that time determines if you win or lose just as much as when you have the puck. There are valuable players that may contribute less when we have the puck but contribute more when we don’t at forward and defense. Not to mention that rarely if ever does a pass out of the defensive zone automatically result in a goal, players on both teams play a part.
I’m really disappointed in us, we’re supppsed to be the knowledgeable hardcore Canadian fanbase and yet often times, only one viewpoint is accepted, alternative explanations are shunned, players scapegoated, and others put on ridiculous pedestals as “magical” or “dreamy”, trade ideas that all NHL GMs would laugh at, management, coaching, players deemed useless and incompetnent, often deemed as such before they work for the Oilers. It’s time to let it go for a new season.
Your rage doesn’t accomplish anything but make us look bad to other fans, set a bad example for the next generation of fans, and is making hockey less fun. We all love the Oilers but maybe it’s time to step away for awhile, realize there’s other things in life but constant vitriol, and come back next year refreshed, less judgemental, and pulling for our team, not pulling each other apart.
Stay classy Oilers fans.
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Burnt Biscuits
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Forwards:
Defense:
Goaltending:
- Connor McDavid- Review video of the best PP QB's, develop a better understanding of how to breakdown defensive coverage on the PP.
- Leon Draisaitl- Two step acceleration from a standstill
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins- Improve puck thievery, already a strength, but he can create even more turnovers with being a little more tenacious and physical on guys. Would go a long way to making the McDavid line even more of a nightmare to play against.
- Milan Lucic- Making plays under forecheck pressure, doesn't have to develop sick mitts, can just make safe plays a little quicker or use his frame to shield the puck.
- Ryan Strome- Skating (general)
- Juhjar Khaira- Skating (general)
- Jesse Puljujarvi- Meditation - gets down on himself too quickly and isn't consistent enough. Meditation can make him more consistent, focused, and resilient.
- Drake Caggiula- Improve situational awareness, scanning the players and play around him quickly. The NHL game hasn't slowed down for him yet, is reading and reacting in real time, doesn't have a great sense what's likely to happen before it actually happens.
- Zack Kassian- No wind up slap shot, just get more pucks off his stick quickly in and around the net. No wasting time trying to pick his spot, just off the stick as quick as possible while still hitting the net to minimize the goalies time to set up.
- Pontus Aberg- Shooting in motion, has great wheels but his "A" shot is from a complete standstill, having the ability to shoot well in full flight would make him much more dangerous.
- Anton Slepyshev- Stickhandling/Dangles- Of the bottom six wingers he has more natural talent then most, needs to further accentuate that, being able to use his speed and hands to get more zone entries with possession would make him a valued member of the team.
- Ty Rattie- Stronger along the boards
Defense:
- Darnell Nurse- Defensive awareness, also needs to cut back on the amount of help defense he provides, is often trying to cover for someone else and then leaves his own man in a far more dangerous position.
- Oscar Klefbom- Build up that strength and bring the physical element back into his game. Was never a bruiser, but before he was injured wasn't shy about using his size a bit to bump guys and create separation.
- Kris Russell- Improve poke check, so he can stay on his feet a bit more, sprawling to take away every pass/shot isn't the answer.
- Matthew Benning- Puck retrieval fundamentals, doesn't handle a heavy forecheck well, just a half a second quicker retrieving the puck would fix a ton of issues for him and his ability to make a good play to get the puck out of the zone.
- Adam Larsson- Offensive game, play in some low level rec league or ball hockey league in the summer, so he can experiment with taking some more offensive risks, try to rekindle a bit of the offensive touch from his younger days
- Andrej Sekera- Injury Rehab. Just work on getting that leg back as close to 100% as possible.
- Ethan Bear- Shot. A present strength, but taking it upto the next level lets him gain a little more traction as a PP specialist and as long as he has that solidly in his back pocket he can develop the other elements of his game later.
Goaltending:
- Cam Talbot- Puck tracking (same eye training Dubnyk and Rolosson were big proponents of)
- Al Montoya- General goalie fundamentals.
People will move on when the person in charge of making those bad moves is gone and can't cause any more harm. Nobody wants to have a bad team.
Part of being a knowledgable fan base is knowing when the team is being damaged by poor management and/or coaching and not just denying it and hoping it self resolves.
What kind of kool aid crap is this? Oiler fans have perfect reasons to be frustrated about a team that has a generational superstar who just hit 100 points for another consecutive season on an ELC, and the boneheaded GM didn't take advantage of it along with the coaches being completely abyssal at their job. And who the f*** wouldn't be annoyed with guys like Lucic and Kassian? Must be Bob Stauffer in disguise.
"Stay classy Oiler fans."
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/140589173/
"At this point I’m only watching to see if jerseys get thrown."
Your irony is rich.
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/140589173/
"At this point I’m only watching to see if jerseys get thrown."
Your irony is rich.
Senor Catface
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You thrust your pelvis, huh!
Forwards:
Defense: - I want every defenseman to work on their passing. Our transition game is abysmal and I don't think we have a single d-man who can make a consistent first pass onto the stick of a forward in transition.
Goaltending: - I don't know enough about goaltending to know what's gone wrong with Talbot. Be better?
- Connor McDavid - shooting on the powerplay. At 5v5, he's one of the most prolific shooters in the game. On the PP he's outside the top 100. Needs to use that shot to keep teams and goalies honest so they don't constantly just play the cross ice pass.
- Leon Draisaitl - Recommit to the defensive zone. Last season he was developing into a two-way beast. This year he's had less focus in the defensive end.
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Continue to try and work on being assertive in both ends of the ice. He's gotten better this year, but he needs to keep working on making sure he tries and drives the play.
- Milan Lucic - Drop 15 pounds (which should improve skating). Play with two god damned hands on the stick (ie give a f*** meter needs to increase exponentially).
- Ryan Strome - Try not to go through 5-10 game stretches where no one notices you.
- Juhjar Khaira - Continue to develop defensive game. He's got all the tools you want in a 4C, maybe even a 3C but he's not quite there yet to be relied upon to defend a lead.
- Jesse Puljujarvi - Learn to be an NHL pro. He's too inconsistent shift to shift.
- Drake Caggiula - Get better on the PK. He's not physical enough, or good enough offensively to not contribute in other areas. Without some sort of dynamic to his game he's going to find himself out of the league sooner rather than later.
- Zack Kassian - Re-engage emotionally and physically. He's on pace for nearly a hit less per game this season compared to last. You can just see he hasn't cared out there this year.
- Pontus Aberg - Learn to aim
- Anton Slepyshev - See Puljujarvi. He'll have games where he looks like he could be a great 3rd or 4th liner. And then goes through big stretches where you forget he's there.
- Ty Rattie - Needs to figure out what his niche can be. He's not going to be a top 6 in the NHL long term. Like Caggiula if he wants to stick around in this league he needs to find something he can do. Whether that is start to play with more of an edge, or contribute on the PK or whatever. He needs to find something.
Defense: - I want every defenseman to work on their passing. Our transition game is abysmal and I don't think we have a single d-man who can make a consistent first pass onto the stick of a forward in transition.
- Darnell Nurse
- Oscar Klefbom
- Kris Russell
- Matthew Benning
- Adam Larsson
- Andrej Sekera
- Ethan Bear
Goaltending: - I don't know enough about goaltending to know what's gone wrong with Talbot. Be better?
- Cam Talbot
- Al Montoya
Jesse Puljujarvi - The English language. Seriously. And puck handling under pressure. Using his body to shield the puck and using that first step to separate himself from the defender. He's going to be a very effective forward down low on the cycle, so work on perfecting the craft.
Milan Lucic - Watching Patrick Maroon game tape and figuring out how to simplify his game. He doesn't have the same tools he had when he was a younger man so he needs to figure out how he can find himself in the right spots. Lose a bit of mass without losing the ability to be explosive physically.
Ryan Strome - Work on your shot. The quickness, the release, the accuracy. You need to be a volume shooter because you have a rocket. You also need to work on your separation. To use that shot you need to work on finding open areas. And work on draws.
EVERYBODY WORK ON DRAWS.
Milan Lucic - Watching Patrick Maroon game tape and figuring out how to simplify his game. He doesn't have the same tools he had when he was a younger man so he needs to figure out how he can find himself in the right spots. Lose a bit of mass without losing the ability to be explosive physically.
Ryan Strome - Work on your shot. The quickness, the release, the accuracy. You need to be a volume shooter because you have a rocket. You also need to work on your separation. To use that shot you need to work on finding open areas. And work on draws.
EVERYBODY WORK ON DRAWS.
Bryanbryoil
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Forwards:
Defense:
Goaltending:
- Connor McDavid-Faceoffs and creating his own shot on the PP.
- Leon Draisaitl-Acceleration and stamina.
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins-Stronger and faster, this will help him and McDavid if they play on the same line.
- Milan Lucic-Lose weight and improve on his hand/eye coordination. This will help all facets of his game.
- Ryan Strome-Skating, improve top end speed and acceleration. Shot, improve accuracy.
- Juhjar Khaira-Continue to get stronger and work on endurance to improve his consistency level.
- Jesse Puljujarvi-Acceleration, core strength, shot accuracy and stickhandling. He's young enough to improve on all of these areas.
- Drake Caggiula-Shot velocity and more strength.
- Zack Kassian-Get the eye of the tiger back.
- Pontus Aberg-Work on his shot tirelessly, if he improves he could be a long time NHLer with his wheels.
- Anton Slepyshev-Work on his mental game. He has all of the tools needed to succeed but no tool box.
- Ty Rattie-Get stronger and work on his shot even more.
Defense:
- Darnell Nurse-Get stronger and kind of like Kassian, get the eye of the tiger back.
- Oscar Klefbom-Get healthy and work on his shot and skating.
- Kris Russell-Work on his passing.
- Matthew Benning-Work on his skating, IMO if he were a bit quicker he'd be a much better defenseman.
- Adam Larsson-Skating and shot.
- Andrej Sekera-Skating and shot.
- Ethan Bear-Skating and strength.
Goaltending:
- Cam Talbot-Take a few weeks to a month off and then start rebuilding yourself from the ground up.
- Al Montoya-Endurance in case Talbot has a rough go next season.
rboomercat90
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Of all the threads to post this garbage in you post in a thread created to give players constructive criticism. Brilliant! Do your fan bashing somewhere else.
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