Summer 2018 Prospect Poll: Best of the Rest

[Ruckus007]

All prospects who fit the HF prospect criteria are included.

ELIGIBILITY
-In his Age-24 season with fewer than 65 NHL games for a skater (or 45 games for a goalie).

-If signed out of Europe or the NCAA at age 22 or older, fewer than 65 (skaters) or 45 (goalies) games within three years of signing.

-Linus Ullmark is 25 and has less than 45 games, he won't be included.

-The following players' eligibility is based on the 22 and over rule: Casey Nelson (expires 03/22/19), C.J. Smith (03/30/20), Lawrence Pilut (03/15/21), Andrew Oglevie (04/11/21), Victor Olofsson (04/24/21), Brandon Hickey (07/01/21)

-Danny O'Regan will age out after this season.

-If I have made any mistakes with the list, let me know.

RULES
Each poll runs 24 hours and is public. Vote for your choice and nominate a prospect from the list below to replace that player on the subsequent poll.

If there is a tie in the Top 10, there will be a run-off and the losing prospect will be returned to the pool for the next vote. Outside the Top 10, the tie will hold, the two highest Adds will be added and we'll move on.

PROSPECT RANKINGS
In the past, we've also done skater-only and goalie-only threads, as well as aggregate-type of rankings. If someone is interested, they are welcome to inherit that responsibility.

Summer 2018, Top 20
1. Rasmus Dahlin, D (nr) : by acclimation
2. Casey Mittelstadt, C (-1) : 10 of 11 votes (90.9%). Runner up, Tage Thompson (1 vote)
3. Brendan Guhle, D (-1) : 23 of 34 votes (67.6%). Runner up, Alexander Nylander (4 votes)
4. Alexander Nylander, LW (-1) : 61 of 147 votes (41.5%). Runner up, Rasmus Asplund (37 votes)
5. Rasmus Asplund, C (-1) : 72 of 138 votes (52.2%). Runner up, Tage Thompson (15 votes)
6. Tage Thompson, C (nr) : 18 of 59 votes (30.5%). Runner up, Victor Olofsson (17 votes)
7. Victor Olofsson, RW (--) : 27 of 57 votes (47.4%). Runner up, Lawrence Pilut (16 votes)
8. Lawrence Pilut, D (nr) : 32 of 64 votes (50.0%). Runner up, Mattias Samuelsson (11 votes)
9. Mattias Samuelsson, D (nr) : 24 of 65 votes (36.9%). Runner up, Marcus Davidsson (20 votes)
10. Marcus Davidsson, C (-1) : 34 of 72 votes (47.2%). Runner up, Will Borgen (13 votes)
11. Will Borgen, D (-3) : 18 of 51 votes (35.3%). Runner ups, O. Laaksonen, U. Luukkonen, C. Smith (8 votes each)
12. Oskari Laaksonen, D (+9/nr) : 19 of 67 votes (28.4%). Runner up, Ukka-Pekka Luukkonen (18 votes)
13. Ukka-Pekka Luukkonen, G (+1) : 26 of 59 votes (44.1%). Runner up, C.J. Smith (16 votes)
14. C.J. Smith, LW (-2) : 24 of 48 votes (50.0%). Runner up, Matej Pekar (9 votes)
15. Matej Pekar, C (nr) : 15 of 55 votes (27.3%). Runner up, Casey Nelson (14 votes)
16. Casey Nelson, D (-3) : 15 of 49 votes (30.6%). Runner up, Nicholas Baptiste (13 votes)
17. Nicholas Baptiste, RW (-6) : 15 of 48 votes (31.3%). Runners up, C. Fitzgerald and D. O'Regan (7 votes each)
18. Justin Bailey, RW (-3) : 9 of 38 votes (23.7%). Runner up, Sean Malone (8 votes)
19. Danny O'Regan, (C) (-3) : 12 of 37 votes (32.4%). Runner up, Sean Malone (10 votes)
20. Sean Malone, (C) (-1) : 20 of 51 votes (39.2%). Runner up, Casey Fitzgerald (9 votes)



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[Gabrielor]

I think Bryson, Fitzgerald, Hickey, Oglevie, Glotov, and Weissbach all have varying degrees of a shot, but a shot.

Kukkonen, Kreu, and Cronholm are too new and unknown to me, and therefore, they get the TBD sticker.

The rest are varying degrees of < 1% chance, all the way to “they are prospects only by rights, but in reality, they’re done.” That first group is your Devante Stephens. That second group would be your Connor Hurleys, your Karabaceks, your Brycen Martins.

 

[Deleted member 27798]

I always liked Willman from past rookie camps. Interested to see how he does at BU or BC or wherever the heck he went for one more year of eligibility.

There's always a glimmer of hope!

I voted for Brown, Bryson, Fitzgerald, Hickey, Johansson, Oglevie, Weissbach & Willman.


PS I don't get the love for Glotov...even at this point in the poll. I'd be shocked if he became a productive forward even at the AHL level.

 

[Jame]

I can't wait for Cornel, Karabacek, Martin, and Johansson to be off these damn polls.... constant reminder of how badly we missed with that trove of picks....... Brayden Point was on my target list after the 1st round completed.... and we passed on him 5 times.....

 

[SabresFan26]

I think Oglevie should easily be in that list. He's done nothing but impressed since signing here in his short time.

My list:

1. Dahlin
2. Mittelstadt
3. Asplund
4. Guhle
5. Thompson
6. Nylander
7. Olofsson
8. Borgen
9. Luukkonen
10. Samuelsson
11. Davidsson
12. Pilut
13. Laaksonen
14. Nelson
15. Smith
16. Oglevie
17. Pekar
18. O'Regan
19. Hickey
20. Baptiste

 

[SabresFan26]

I can't wait for Cornel, Karabacek, Martin, and Johansson to be off these damn polls.... constant reminder of how badly we missed with that trove of picks....... Brayden Point was on my target list after the 1st round completed.... and we passed on him 5 times.....

Was a big fan of Point too. That 2nd round was brutal.

 

[Rastin]

Not voting for Brycen Martin here hurts me, he was a guy I was high on going into the draft and was super pumped we took him. /sadface

Time to move on....

 

[Jame]

I think Oglevie should easily be in that list. He's done nothing but impressed since signing here in his short time.

My list:

1. Dahlin
2. Mittelstadt
3. Asplund
4. Guhle
5. Thompson
6. Nylander
7. Olofsson
8. Borgen
9. Luukkonen
10. Samuelsson
11. Davidsson
12. Pilut
13. Laaksonen
14. Nelson
15. Smith
16. Oglevie
17. Pekar
18. O'Regan
19. Hickey
20. Baptiste

mine:

Tier	Rank	Name	Total
1	1	Dahlin	9.5
1	2	Mittelstadt	8.2
2	3	Asplund	7.4
2		Thompson	7.4
2	5	Olofsson	7.25
2		Guhle	7.25
2	7	Nylander	7
3	8	Borgen	6.05
3		Pilut	6.05
3		Davidsson	6.05
3		Samuelsson	6.05
4	12	Luukkonen	5.9
4		Laaksonen	5.9
4	14	Smith	5.75
4	15	Pekar	5.7
4	16	O'regan	5.55
4	17	Baptiste	5.45
5	18	Hickey	5.4
5	19	Bailey	5.35
5	20	Oglevie	5.3
5		Malone	5.3
5	22	Weissbach	5.25
6	23	Fitzgerald	4.75
6		Glotov	4.75
6		Cronholm	4.75
6		Kukkonen	4.75
6		Worge-Kreu	4.75
6	28	Bryson	4.6
6		Stephens	4.55
7	30	Johansson	3.9
7		Cornel	3.9
7	32	Brown	3.75
7		Nyberg	3.75
8	34	Hurley	3.35
8	35	Chukarov	3.2
8	36	Willman	2.7
8		Murray	2.7
8	38	Karabacek	2.5
8		Martin	2.5

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[UnleashRasmus]

My list

1. Dahlin
2. Mittelstadt
3. Asplund
4. Nylander
5. Guhle
6. Thompson
7. Borgen
8. Davidsson
9. Luukkonen
10. Olofsson
11. Samuelsson
12. Pilut
13. Laaksonen
14. Smith
15. Pekar
16. Nelson
17. Ogelvie
18. O'Regan
19. Hickey
20. Malone

 

[debaser66]

I can't wait for Cornel, Karabacek, Martin, and Johansson to be off these damn polls.... constant reminder of how badly we missed with that trove of picks....... Brayden Point was on my target list after the 1st round completed.... and we passed on him 5 times.....

You probably will see Johansson in goal today..at least he is listed first for the Columbus game.
Its really bad to miss on Point but if one variable changes there is no Dahlin..so I am happy for now.

 

[SabresFan26]

mine:

Tier	Rank	Name	Total
1	1	Dahlin	9.5
1	2	Mittelstadt	8.2
2	3	Asplund	7.4
2		Thompson	7.4
2	5	Olofsson	7.25
2		Guhle	7.25
2	7	Nylander	7
3	8	Borgen	6.05
3		Pilut	6.05
3		Davidsson	6.05
3		Samuelsson	6.05
4	12	Luukkonen	5.9
4		Laaksonen	5.9
4	14	Smith	5.75
4	15	Pekar	5.7
4	16	O'regan	5.55
4	17	Baptiste	5.45
5	18	Hickey	5.4
5	19	Bailey	5.35
5	20	Oglevie	5.3
5		Malone	5.3
5	22	Weissbach	5.25
6	23	Fitzgerald	4.75
6		Glotov	4.75
6		Cronholm	4.75
6		Kukkonen	4.75
6		Worge-Kreu	4.75
6	28	Bryson	4.6
6		Stephens	4.55
7	30	Johansson	3.9
7		Cornel	3.9
7	32	Brown	3.75
7		Nyberg	3.75
8	34	Hurley	3.35
8	35	Chukarov	3.2
8	36	Willman	2.7
8		Murray	2.7
8	38	Karabacek	2.5
8		Martin	2.5

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Like the effort with the grades per usual. Funny you tiered them because there's a lot of guys who are very equal to me as well. One of the hardest lists to do in a while which is good and bad. Ready for a lot of these meh guys in that 14-22 range graduate/make it/move on (Baptiste, Bailey, Smith, O'Regan, Malone, etc)

 

[SabresFan26]

You probably will see Johansson in goal today..at least he is listed first for the Columbus game.
Its really bad to miss on Point but if one variable changes there is no Dahlin..so I am happy for now.

I'll take this as an optimism post.

Yes the last 5-7 years have been brutal and awful. Embarrassment of tanking/suffering/Regier/Murray/Rookie GM's/Pegula's/Failed cores/whatever is someone's belief the mistakes have been,
We now have so many bright spots and a competitive culture brewing that might make it go all away, especially if we fulfill the vision of becoming an elite team year in and out and can hopefully win the trophy with a lot of this group.

We have two dynamic game changers at two of the most important positions (Dahlin/Eichel)
We have great young players to assist those two as the core (Skinner/Mittelstadt/Reinhart (if he signs)/Ristolainen)
Some great young pieces that will get into that above category (Thompson/Asplund/Nylander/Borgen/etc.)
Some decent good aged vet depth (Sheary/Berglund/Okposo (pending he rebounds this year)/Scandella/etc.)

AND

3 Other bright spots

1.) We lose a ton of contracts in the next year or two to give us money to sign our young guys (Moulson/Pominville/Beaulieu/Bogosian (if he doesn't rebound)/Sobotka (if he doesn't rebound)/Hunwick
2.) A lot of that bottom 6 depth/bottom defense pair is completely up for grabs and will figure itself out this year (Sobotka/Wilson/Pominville/Girgensons/Larsson/Rodrigues/Baptiste/Bailey/O'Regan/Smith/Malone/Oglevie/Beaulieu/McCabe/Bogosian/Nelson/Hunwick/etc.
3.) We have a ton of capital in draft assets including 3 first round picks this year to continue to add young talented depth to replace players on cheap ELCs when some of our current guys get off of ELCs.

We are not there yet, and might not make the playoffs as there will be some growing pains, but this team is heading in the right direction and I am optimistic in the future for this franchise.

 

[Deleted member 27798]

Thanks to Ruckus for running the polls...especially this "honorable mention" one.

 

[Ruckus007]

PROSPECT RANKINGS
In the past, we've also done skater-only and goalie-only threads, as well as aggregate-type of rankings. If someone is interested, they are welcome to inherit that responsibility.

Summer 2018, Top 25
1. Rasmus Dahlin, D (nr) : by acclimation
2. Casey Mittelstadt, C (-1) : 10 of 11 votes (90.9%). Runner up, Tage Thompson (1 vote)
3. Brendan Guhle, D (-1) : 23 of 34 votes (67.6%). Runner up, Alexander Nylander (4 votes)
4. Alexander Nylander, LW (-1) : 61 of 147 votes (41.5%). Runner up, Rasmus Asplund (37 votes)
5. Rasmus Asplund, C (-1) : 72 of 138 votes (52.2%). Runner up, Tage Thompson (15 votes)
6. Tage Thompson, C (nr) : 18 of 59 votes (30.5%). Runner up, Victor Olofsson (17 votes)
7. Victor Olofsson, RW (--) : 27 of 57 votes (47.4%). Runner up, Lawrence Pilut (16 votes)
8. Lawrence Pilut, D (nr) : 32 of 64 votes (50.0%). Runner up, Mattias Samuelsson (11 votes)
9. Mattias Samuelsson, D (nr) : 24 of 65 votes (36.9%). Runner up, Marcus Davidsson (20 votes)
10. Marcus Davidsson, C (-1) : 34 of 72 votes (47.2%). Runner up, Will Borgen (13 votes)
11. Will Borgen, D (-3) : 18 of 51 votes (35.3%). Runner ups, O. Laaksonen, U. Luukkonen, C. Smith (8 votes each)
12. Oskari Laaksonen, D (+9/nr) : 19 of 67 votes (28.4%). Runner up, Ukka-Pekka Luukkonen (18 votes)
13. Ukka-Pekka Luukkonen, G (+1) : 26 of 59 votes (44.1%). Runner up, C.J. Smith (16 votes)
14. C.J. Smith, LW (-2) : 24 of 48 votes (50.0%). Runner up, Matej Pekar (9 votes)
15. Matej Pekar, C (nr) : 15 of 55 votes (27.3%). Runner up, Casey Nelson (14 votes)
16. Casey Nelson, D (-3) : 15 of 49 votes (30.6%). Runner up, Nicholas Baptiste (13 votes)
17. Nicholas Baptiste, RW (-6) : 15 of 48 votes (31.3%). Runners up, C. Fitzgerald and D. O'Regan (7 votes each)
18. Justin Bailey, RW (-3) : 9 of 38 votes (23.7%). Runner up, Sean Malone (8 votes)
19. Danny O'Regan, C (-3) : 12 of 37 votes (32.4%). Runner up, Sean Malone (10 votes)
20. Sean Malone, C (-1) : 20 of 51 votes (39.2%). Runner up, Casey Fitzgerald (9 votes)
21. Andrew Oglevie, C (nr)
22. Casey Fitzgerald, D (-2)
23. Linus Weissbach, LW (nr)
24. Brandon Hickey, D (nr)
25. Jacob Bryson, D (-7)



What a wonderfully precise cutoff!

 

[jc17]

1. Dahlin
2. Mittelstadt
3. Pilut
4. Asplund
5. Thompson
6. Guhle
7. Nylander
8. Olofsson
9. Davidsson
10. Smith
11. Laaksonen
12. Samuelsson
13. Borgen
14. Bailey
15. O'regan
16. Pekar

 

[debaser66]

What a race, thx Ruckus007!
Too bad Golotov didn't make it.

 

[neelynugs]

All prospects who fit the HF prospect criteria are included.

ELIGIBILITY
-In his Age-24 season with fewer than 65 NHL games for a skater (or 45 games for a goalie).

-If signed out of Europe or the NCAA at age 22 or older, fewer than 65 (skaters) or 45 (goalies) games within three years of signing.

-Linus Ullmark is 25 and has less than 45 games, he won't be included.

-The following players' eligibility is based on the 22 and over rule: Casey Nelson (expires 03/22/19), C.J. Smith (03/30/20), Lawrence Pilut (03/15/21), Andrew Oglevie (04/11/21), Victor Olofsson (04/24/21), Brandon Hickey (07/01/21)

-Danny O'Regan will age out after this season.

-If I have made any mistakes with the list, let me know.

RULES
Each poll runs 24 hours and is public. Vote for your choice and nominate a prospect from the list below to replace that player on the subsequent poll.

If there is a tie in the Top 10, there will be a run-off and the losing prospect will be returned to the pool for the next vote. Outside the Top 10, the tie will hold, the two highest Adds will be added and we'll move on.

PROSPECT RANKINGS
In the past, we've also done skater-only and goalie-only threads, as well as aggregate-type of rankings. If someone is interested, they are welcome to inherit that responsibility.

Summer 2018, Top 20
1. Rasmus Dahlin, D (nr) : by acclimation
2. Casey Mittelstadt, C (-1) : 10 of 11 votes (90.9%). Runner up, Tage Thompson (1 vote)
3. Brendan Guhle, D (-1) : 23 of 34 votes (67.6%). Runner up, Alexander Nylander (4 votes)
4. Alexander Nylander, LW (-1) : 61 of 147 votes (41.5%). Runner up, Rasmus Asplund (37 votes)
5. Rasmus Asplund, C (-1) : 72 of 138 votes (52.2%). Runner up, Tage Thompson (15 votes)
6. Tage Thompson, C (nr) : 18 of 59 votes (30.5%). Runner up, Victor Olofsson (17 votes)
7. Victor Olofsson, RW (--) : 27 of 57 votes (47.4%). Runner up, Lawrence Pilut (16 votes)
8. Lawrence Pilut, D (nr) : 32 of 64 votes (50.0%). Runner up, Mattias Samuelsson (11 votes)
9. Mattias Samuelsson, D (nr) : 24 of 65 votes (36.9%). Runner up, Marcus Davidsson (20 votes)
10. Marcus Davidsson, C (-1) : 34 of 72 votes (47.2%). Runner up, Will Borgen (13 votes)
11. Will Borgen, D (-3) : 18 of 51 votes (35.3%). Runner ups, O. Laaksonen, U. Luukkonen, C. Smith (8 votes each)
12. Oskari Laaksonen, D (+9/nr) : 19 of 67 votes (28.4%). Runner up, Ukka-Pekka Luukkonen (18 votes)
13. Ukka-Pekka Luukkonen, G (+1) : 26 of 59 votes (44.1%). Runner up, C.J. Smith (16 votes)
14. C.J. Smith, LW (-2) : 24 of 48 votes (50.0%). Runner up, Matej Pekar (9 votes)
15. Matej Pekar, C (nr) : 15 of 55 votes (27.3%). Runner up, Casey Nelson (14 votes)
16. Casey Nelson, D (-3) : 15 of 49 votes (30.6%). Runner up, Nicholas Baptiste (13 votes)
17. Nicholas Baptiste, RW (-6) : 15 of 48 votes (31.3%). Runners up, C. Fitzgerald and D. O'Regan (7 votes each)
18. Justin Bailey, RW (-3) : 9 of 38 votes (23.7%). Runner up, Sean Malone (8 votes)
19. Danny O'Regan, (C) (-3) : 12 of 37 votes (32.4%). Runner up, Sean Malone (10 votes)
20. Sean Malone, (C) (-1) : 20 of 51 votes (39.2%). Runner up, Casey Fitzgerald (9 votes)



Votes are set to unlimited. Select anyone you think is worthy of consideration for any reason.

now that we are midway through the season, wondering how you guys see the top 10 as of right now.
biggest surprise? disappointment? biggest riser?

 

[truthbluth]

now that we are midway through the season, wondering how you guys see the top 10 as of right now.
biggest surprise? disappointment? biggest riser?

Surprise: Luukonen. He looked bad in literally every game I got to see last season.
Disappointment: Not sure how it could be anyone but Guhle
Riser: it’s got to be UPL. After Dahlin and Mittelstadt graduate, he’s #1 for me.

My top 20:
1. Dahlin
2. Mittelstadt
3. Luukkonen
4. Asplund
5. Pilut
6. Thompson
7. Olofsson
8. Nylander
9. Laaksonen
10. Borgen
11. Davidsson
12. Guhle
13. Samuelsson
14. Bryson
15. Smith
16. Leier
17. Pekar
18. O'Regan
19. Dougherty
20. Weissbach

Side note: it’s maddening to see how thin our pool is considering if the Sabres us drafted off my board, Philip Kurashev, Veini Vehvilainen, and Trey Fix-Wolansky are all top 20. Well, and you’d have to swap Samuelsson for Filip Hallander which I’d still be fine with.

 

[Team Cozens]

now that we are midway through the season, wondering how you guys see the top 10 as of right now.
biggest surprise? disappointment? biggest riser?

Botts got rid of #17, #18 and #19. Look out out #20 - Malone.

 

[truthbluth]

Botts got rid of #17, #18 and #19. Look out out #20 - Malone.

He got rid of O’Regan?

 

[Team Cozens]

Top 15

Dahlin
Mittelstadt
Nylander
Thompson
Pilut
Laaksonen
Luukkonen
Asplund
Olofsson
Pekar
Samuelsson
Borgen
Guhle
Davidsson
Weissbach

 

[Team Cozens]

He got rid of O’Regan?

Thought I read O’Regan was leaving after this season. Overseas.

 

[Aladyyn]

1) Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen
2) Lawrence Pilut
3) Alexander Nylander
4) Victor Olofsson
5) Brendan Guhle
6) Marcus Davidsson
7) Will Borgen
8) Oskari Laaksonen
9) CJ Smith
10) Rasmus Asplund

Had this list for a thread in the prospects section so it doesn't have Dahlin/Mitts/Tage. Dahlin obviously #1, Mitts goes between Nylander and VO, Tage somewhere in the Borgen range.