Value of: Subban to Rangers

[ETTER DE]

Rangers need a 1D . Subban is signed for 3 more years with a cap hit of 9 mill. 3 years of Subban gives Rangers time to develop their own young RDs.
If I understand it correctly the rumour is that Preds want to trade Subban to make room for Duchene.

The 2OA and Zibanejad would be off limits. And the young russians signed this spring I guess, What could Nashville want back? Only picks and prospects? Shattenkirk with 50% (app. 3,3 mill) retention to use on the p0werplay? Could he be part of a package?

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[lifelonghockeyfan]

This fascination with calling players "1 D" etc. Subban isn't one near the best Nashville Dman, so why put in that position with the Rangers? Better ways of spending 9m.

 

[JustaFinnishGuy]

The way Subban is playing is making trade talks die off imo. He's not someone we should move out of the top 4, Ellis comes to mind as the most likely candidate to being moved.

 

[JustaFinnishGuy]

This fascination with calling players "1 D" etc. Subban isn't one near the best Nashville Dman, so why put in that position with the Rangers? Better ways of spending 9m.

You sure about that tough guy?

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

You sure about that tough guy?

Tough guy? But I do watch some NHL hockey. Do you?

 

[Patagonia]

Waiting for all the NYR fans claiming Subban is useless.

NYR fans trade ask 5 - 1st rounders.

NYR fans offer 1 - 5th rounder with retention.

 

[Vitto79]

Rebuilding and gonna stink for 2 more years Atleast so why ?

 

[GAGLine]

Waiting for all the NYR fans claiming Subban is useless.

He's useless to the Rangers.

Why the hell would we spend the assets it would take to acquire him just so he can be a stop gap until our prospects are ready? Subban will be 30 next month. Rebuilding teams shouldn't be trading significant assets for 30 year old players.

 

[cwede]

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NYR not looking to add expensive guys with lots of mileage
no disrespect to PK, just not the right guy at this time

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

I love PK, but the Rangers are not ready to compete and it would be senseless to part with the assets it would take to acquire him. He is a wonderful player, but doesn't fit our timeline.

 

[SML2]

Closest thing to a bad contract the Rangers have is Staal and possibly Lundqvist. Someone would take Shatty if we made the price right. Subban isn't going to be happy playing poppa bear in a rebuild. No thanks.

 

[GeauxPreds1]

I think pk has a chance to go to the other new york team. It would make no sense for the rangers to even try and go after pk. And zibs would be the only player nashville would want in a pk trade but as I said zero sense.

 

[rinaldo]

PK is perfect fit for the flyers

 

[pld459666]

Rangers need a 1D . Subban is signed for 3 more years with a cap hit of 9 mill. 3 years of Subban gives Rangers time to develop their own young RDs.
If I understand it correctly the rumour is that Preds want to trade Subban to make room for Duchene.

The 2OA and Zibanejad would be off limits. And the young russians signed this spring I guess, What could Nashville want back? Only picks and prospects? Shattenkirk with 50% (app. 3,3 mill) retention to use on the p0werplay? Could he be part of a package?

Rangers are no where near ready to bring in this player.

By the time they are ready to compete, Subbans contract will be up.

Hard pass.

And I like Subban

 

[GeauxPreds1]

PK is perfect fit for the flyers

What top 6 player would the flyers give nashville to get subban because Nashville will just keep him if bottom 6 players, prospects and picks is all he's gonna get in return.

 

[ETTER DE]

He's useless to the Rangers.

Why the hell would we spend the assets it would take to acquire him just so he can be a stop gap until our prospects are ready? Subban will be 30 next month. Rebuilding teams shouldn't be trading significant assets for 30 year old players.

Because if you go on with a rebuild without having a decent defense, the rebuild could easily fail. And a character like Subban might take some of the pressure off the rookies.

 

[GAGLine]

Because if you go on with a rebuild without having a decent defense, the rebuild could easily fail. And a character like Subban might take some of the pressure off the rookies.

We still have Shattenkirk, Staal and Smith on the books for the next 2 years. One or more might get traded in that time and Smith could see more time on the 4th line or in the AHL, but if you add Subban to this defense, where are the kids going to play? Skjei, ADA, Pionk, Hajek, Lindgren. There are only so many roster spots. We don't need to trade quality assets and pay a 30 year old 9 mil per year to insulate the kids. We have plenty of vets to do that.

Are you planning to re-sign Subban when he is 33? Are we trading quality assets for him just so he can be a mentor for the kids while we suck? And speaking of that, what exactly are you trading to get him? You realize it won't be cheap, right?

 

[Golden Puppers]

Subban doesn't fit the timeline of the NYR. His cap hit is too high and he's not even elite anymore.

 

[One Winged Angel]

We still have Shattenkirk, Staal and Smith on the books for the next 2 years. One or more might get traded in that time and Smith could see more time on the 4th line or in the AHL, but if you add Subban to this defense, where are the kids going to play? Skjei, ADA, Pionk, Hajek, Lindgren. There are only so many roster spots. We don't need to trade quality assets and pay a 30 year old 9 mil per year to insulate the kids. We have plenty of vets to do that.

Are you planning to re-sign Subban when he is 33? Are we trading quality assets for him just so he can be a mentor for the kids while we suck? And speaking of that, what exactly are you trading to get him? You realize it won't be cheap, right?

Best post so far. Explains everything.

Not the right fit at the right time according to NYR’s trajectory and it will cost way too much to get him and then have to re-sign him at 33? It’s a terrible fit for the Rangers.

No thanks.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Pass on PK.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

What top 6 player would the flyers give nashville to get subban because Nashville will just keep him if bottom 6 players, prospects and picks is all he's gonna get in return.

The Flyers are actually overflowing with NHL-ready talent. I think they’d make the most sense if the main objective in trading Subban is to harvest cap space - they have plenty of quality players on cheap ELCs.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Quality young forward, good prospect (F or D), picks is what we'd want. We'd make such a trade only because Fabbro is showing he can fill in as a top 4.

 

[Lebowski]

This fascination with calling players "1 D" etc. Subban isn't one near the best Nashville Dman, so why put in that position with the Rangers? Better ways of spending 9m.

The guy is one year removed from a Norris nomination.

Sure, tough year overall, but going as far as saying Subban isn't a 1D is ridiculous. He'd be the best player on the Rangers by a mile.

Saying that, I don't think he's a fit with the Rangers considering their rebuild.

 

[Cag29]

Rangers need a 1D . Subban is signed for 3 more years with a cap hit of 9 mill. 3 years of Subban gives Rangers time to develop their own young RDs.
If I understand it correctly the rumour is that Preds want to trade Subban to make room for Duchene.

The 2OA and Zibanejad would be off limits. And the young russians signed this spring I guess, What could Nashville want back? Only picks and prospects? Shattenkirk with 50% (app. 3,3 mill) retention to use on the p0werplay? Could he be part of a package?

No thanks.

 

[ETTER DE]

We still have Shattenkirk, Staal and Smith on the books for the next 2 years. One or more might get traded in that time and Smith could see more time on the 4th line or in the AHL, but if you add Subban to this defense, where are the kids going to play? Skjei, ADA, Pionk, Hajek, Lindgren. There are only so many roster spots. We don't need to trade quality assets and pay a 30 year old 9 mil per year to insulate the kids. We have plenty of vets to do that.

Are you planning to re-sign Subban when he is 33? Are we trading quality assets for him just so he can be a mentor for the kids while we suck? And speaking of that, what exactly are you trading to get him? You realize it won't be cheap, right?

Rangers need someone to play on their first pairing. And it should not be young defenders like they did (with Pionk) this year. Please do not let them play way over their head and ruin them. Of course you need to get rid of Gorton`s idiotic signings in Smith and Shattenkirk. (I even suggested that Shattenkirk went the other way....) But Gorton would probably not trade those two for peanuts. That would be admitting that he made some big mistakes. So he will probably let them play out their contracts and present it like they are important for the rebuild. And you will buy it I guess.