Strachan realignment proposal

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  1. Dave is a killer

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    I don't think it you can seperate Vancouver from Calgary, Edmonton, and Colorado.
     
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    I still haven't figured out why Chicago and St. Louis go to the Northwest and Minnesota (which is ALREADY northwest of both St. Louis and Chicago) goes to the Central.
     
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    I see that it's that time of year.

    Strachan has nothing to write about since the lockout's over, so he's playing in imagination-land
     
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    not really ... there is going to have to be a serious re-alignment IF Pittsburgh has to leave for Houston OR KC

    2 ways of doing it ... moving CBUS into Pittsburgh's spot in the Atlantic OR the Preds into the SE & Washington into the Pens vacated spot in the Atlantic ...

    http://www.tmlfever.com/files/map_of_team_cities.gif

    IF Houston gets the Pens the league will have to re-align to make sure Houston & Dallas are in the same division, IF KC gets the Pens then St Louis is the logical choice to be put in the same division
     
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    .... to the point of moving Minnesota to the Central and Chicago to the Northwest?

    Crock. Of. Shiat.
     
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    I got a better proposal

    Adams Division

    Montreal
    Boston
    Buffalo
    Hartford
    Quebec
    Toronto
    Ottawa

    Patrick Division

    New York I
    New York R
    Philadelphia
    New Jersey
    Washington
    Pittsburgh

    Norris Division

    Detroit
    St. Louis
    Minnesota
    Dallas
    Chicago
    Winnipeg
    Columbus

    Smythe Division

    San Jose
    Los Angeles
    Vancouver
    Edmonton
    Calgary
    Colorado

    dont get mad im just a messanger
     
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    That is absolutely beautiful. Love it! :clap:
     
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    The same discussion was going on in the Oilers board. I'll post here what I posted there....

    Here's my idea if Pittsburgh were to relocate to Houston. Keep in mind that because the western teams are spread out and there are more teams in the eastern US, the Western Conference is never going to be ideal. For example, it could be argued from a geographical point of view that Nashville, Columbus, and Detroit should be in the Eastern Conference.

    Here's my idea, realigned teams in italics.

    Western Conference

    Northwest
    Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, San Jose, Vancouver

    Southwest (was Pacific)
    Anaheim, Dallas, Houston (Pittsburgh), Los Angeles, Phoenix

    Central
    Chicago, Columbus, Detroit, Minnesota, St. Louis

    Eastern Conference

    Northeast
    Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto

    Southeast
    Atlanta, Carolina, Florida, Nashville, Tampa Bay

    Atlantic
    New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Philadelphia, Washington
     
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    Exactly. Nashville is the closest NHL team to Atlanta and should be in the same conference and division as us. It's hard to really create a rivalry with the Caps, as D.C. is too far away from Atlanta to really feel like a rival (Atlanta to Washington is about a 12-13 hour drive. Columbus is closer to Atlanta than D.C.). Washington would have more natural rivalries with the NY/NJ teams and the Flyers.

    Perhaps the Geographic Conferences needs to be dumped.
     
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    Dallas knows that it has to eat travel costs, and probably accepts that. What it can't accept is a vast number of its games starting at 9 or 9:30 pm because they are being played on the west coast.

    The East is all on the same time zone, and thus there is the luxury of aligning the division geographically (well, if you move Nashville, they are in the Central time zone).

    What Dallas, and perhaps others in the west, would like to see is time zone-based divisions (Pacific, Mountain and Central) so that the respective fan bases can watch divisional games that start at 7pm-7:30, particularly important in those the markets that are trying to nurture a new fan base.

    If the Pens moved to Houston, or even Vegas...

    Western Conference

    Pacific Division
    Vancouver, San Jose, Los Angeles, Anaheim, Phoenix

    'Mountain' Division (NW)
    Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Dallas, Houston/Vegas

    Central Division
    Chicago, Columbus, Detroit, Minnesota, St. Louis


    Eastern Conference

    Northeast Division
    Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto

    Southeast Division
    Atlanta, Carolina, Florida, Nashville, Tampa Bay

    Atlantic Division
    New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Philadelphia, Washington


    You would still have some teams that are one time zone off from the rest of their divisional rivals, but at least you'd be rid of teams TWO times zones away. Dallas does have a valid point here: Being two time zones away from divisional opponents is brutal.
     
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    Yeah maybe do an AFC and NFC for hockey.
     
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    And then the AFC can bring in the designated hitter while the NFC rejects it, and hockey fans everywhere can have one more thing to complain about ... because as we all know from browsing the boards here, there's a critical shortage of things to compain about in hockey.
     
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    this was my point in my post, without moving pittsburgh of course, only thing making it hard is that dallas is so far from any other team, i kept the pens in pittsburgh for the simple fact that the argument on where they should go or who deserves a team more is just so talked out i didn't even want to bring it up. too much of a headache unless there was a city already told it'd have the next franchise.
     
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    That is perfect, I don't even see a reason to discuss this further. This should be the NHL.
     
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    good job! :clap:
     
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    *cue the barrage of 'watered down league' posts*

    i know it was in the past, but i just don't like the idea of uneven divisions in the same conf. personally i'd much rather see all divisions with the same number of teams. therefore, if you add a team to the east, there's also gotta be a team added to the west.
     
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    That's the best proposal I've seen on here.
     
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    Also a new playoff format, i mean an old won where its 1 vs. 4, 2 vs 3 in your division (division semi-finals) then Division finals, then conference finals, stanley cup finals.....i think this would help rivalries big time not the 8 games against each divisional team like today's bs
     
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    What if they just change the name from Pacific to Southwest, would that ease peoples geographical minds?

    Breaking up Detroit, St. Louis, and Chicago breaks up some good divisional rivalries. I know that new rivlaries can be born, however, those take time.

    To me, it really makes no difference what a division consists of as there is usually a logical reason for division allignments, and they don't always have to be geographic. The NFL kept Dallas in the same division as Philly, Wash, and the football Giants.


    EDIT: I like MusikMach's allignment. A southern rivalry between ATL, NAS, and even the FLA teams would be a pretty good bill actually - particularly ATL & NAS. However, Nashville seems to be developing pretty good rivalries with Chicago and Detroit along with a little expansion rivalry with Columbus.
     
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    Yeah, that is almost perfect, but there has to be a least two more failed franchises you can throw back in there.
     
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