Simply put, the Blues have enough forwards. We are going to have difficulty incorporating up and coming prospects like Thomas and Kyrou into the roster in the next two years as it is. So, we are not going to trade a defenseman for another forward. Having said that, we could always upgrade the forwards we have for other forwards, picks and prospects. Say, for example, Panarin or Nylander for Schwartz+, or Fabbri +. The point is, the trade won't be for a defenseman, which I guess kind of rules Toronto out as a trade partner. Columbus, I'm not sure.