Post-Game Talk: Still winless and even more royally pissed

[devilsblood]

It's too bad Andy Greene isn't like 5 years younger. He'd really be a perfect pairing for Subban if we knew he could play 20minutes a game.

Then Butcher/Vats Mueller/Severson doesn't look so terrible -

But Mueller has proven he can't play with Severson.

It's unfair to put Seves on his offside when he can't keep the puck out of the net when on his regular side.

Both Vats and Severson are high-risk, high-reward guys - and we simply don't have the guys on the left side who can erase their mistakes.

Butcher and Vats have been very good together. Both this year and last.

Greene was actually very good with Subban through 3 games, playing very tough competition. Greene's injury might be a much bigger issue then anyone expected.

 

[Jamie Davis]

As per Craig button. Hynes not going anywhere.

 

[Jamie Davis]

 

[Tretyak 20]

As per Craig button. Hynes not going anywhere.

As per reality. Neither is this team.

 

[Tundra]

As per Craig button. Hynes not going anywhere.

This could get really bad.

 

[Jamie Davis]

This could get really bad.

It already is.

 

[glenwo2]

Comparing Hynes to Bruce Lee makes me sick.

If this team actually played like Bruce Lee did anything, we'd be 82-0 every season.

81-1.... Chuck Norris would have taken over a team and played every single position....at the same time.

 

[Devil made me do it]

It defies logic how Hynes is still coach of this team. A team that was expected to make the playoffs and has yet to win a game.. Shero is putting his job on the line by hanging on to Hynes. Lou would have gotten rid of the coach by now. That's what I miss about old Lou.

 

[Triumph]

It defies logic how Hynes is still coach of this team. A team that was expected to make the playoffs and has yet to win a game.. Shero is putting his job on the line by hanging on to Hynes. Lou would have gotten rid of the coach by now. That's what I miss about old Lou.

Lou let John Maclean have 33 games where the team went 9-22-2. They started 3-11-1 - 7 points in their first 15 games. The Devils would have to do worse than 2-7-1 in their next 10 to accomplish that.

 

[guitarguyvic]

Lou let John Maclean have 33 games where the team went 9-22-2. They started 3-11-1 - 7 points in their first 15 games. The Devils would have to do worse than 2-7-1 in their next 10 to accomplish that.

That seems absolutely realistic. Are you not watching these games and how truly awful they are?

 

[Blackjack]

It's absolutely absurd. If Scotty f***ing Bowman got these results in six games he'd need to be fired. Has nothing to do with the individual. I don't blame Hynes any more or less than the players, but when there is something this deeply wrong with how the team is playing, you can't just keep letting it continue.

 

[devilsblood]

81-1.... Chuck Norris would have taken over a team and played every single position....at the same time.

Did you never see Way of the Dragon?

Chuck may lead after the first period, but end of the day, Bruce is forced to put him out of his misery.

 

[Triumph]

That seems absolutely realistic. Are you not watching these games and how truly awful they are?

I'm seeing how bad they are, yes. I don't think this sort of thing lasts forever. You can find similar streaks from otherwise decent teams in the middle of seasons.

 

[devilsblood]

It's absolutely absurd. If Scotty ****ing Bowman got these results in six games he'd need to be fired. Has nothing to do with the individual. I don't blame Hynes any more or less than the players, but when there is something this deeply wrong with how the team is playing, you can't just keep letting it continue.

When you set those parameters, it does sound absurd.

 

[Blackjack]

When you set those parameters, it does sound absurd.

I doubt there's any six game stretch where Bowman's team anything like this team has looked.

 

[Blackjack]

I'm seeing how bad they are, yes. I don't think this sort of thing lasts forever. You can find similar streaks from otherwise decent teams in the middle of seasons.

Streaks where they give up 29 goals and score 13 in six games? I really doubt it.

 

[devilsblood]

I doubt there's any six game stretch where Bowman's team anything like this team has looked.

Maybe? But true or not, that's different then saying he'd be fired if he did.

 

[NJDevs26]

I doubt there's any six game stretch where Bowman's team anything like this team has looked.

Well I can think of one four-game stretch

 

[devilsblood]

I do remember watching Bowman lose 4 games in a row at one point.

 

[Blackjack]

Well I can think of one four-game stretch

Ooh, walked into that one

 

[Call Me Al]

teams go through bad stretches but very very few give up 4 goal leads and i’m sure even fewer give up another 3 goal lead in the same losing streak

 

[Triumph]

Streaks where they give up 29 goals and score 13 in six games? I really doubt it.

Blues had a 6 game streak last year where they scored 14 and gave up 24. The Devils have not given up 29 goals - they've given up 27 and lost 2 shootouts.

I'm not saying every team goes through a streak like this, but that it's not unheard of even for decent teams. The Devils are getting no goaltending in addition to poor offense and defense - it's hard to have all 3 things not working at once.

 

[NJDevs26]

Streaks where they give up 29 goals and score 13 in six games? I really doubt it.

I honestly thought we had a worse one under Hynes last year lol...when we had that long losing streak and people thought there'd be a change then before we got trolled on an extension

Looking it up it actually wasn't worse...we got outscored 28-15 in that six-game streak I referenced. It was close though.

 

[jkrdevil]

I honestly thought we had a worse one under Hynes last year lol...when we had that long losing streak and people thought there'd be a change then before we got trolled on an extension

Looking it up it actually wasn't worse...we got outscored 28-15 in that six-game streak I referenced. It was close though.

And here is the thing, the fan anger isn't over this awful start. It is about the full tenure and how often the 18-wheeler has gone off the cliff under this coach. There was the stretch you referenced last year, there was the stretch in January 2018 that nearly made them blow a large playoff cushion, it was winning only 3 of their final 24 games the year before that. At a certain point enough is enough.

Unfortunately, it seems that unless we get loud fan protest at games with jerseys being thrown on the ice al la Toronto and Edmonton a few years ago, nothing is going to change.

 

[Blackjack]

Blues had a 6 game streak last year where they scored 14 and gave up 24. The Devils have not given up 29 goals - they've given up 27 and lost 2 shootouts.

I'm not saying every team goes through a streak like this, but that it's not unheard of even for decent teams. The Devils are getting no goaltending in addition to poor offense and defense - it's hard to have all 3 things not working at once.

The Blues fired their coach and then went on to win the Stanley Cup...