This is going to be a shadow hanging over Holland all season. It will be interesting if he has any comments.
Not really, we know about Holland to Seattle. Easy transfer of power.
This has been a message around the team for a while. Yzerman never moved and we always knew the pull was serious. Glad he is hopefully only a year away. I hope he brings Verbeek back.
If Yzerman were to come back and take over the team, I'd hope he'd poach some of the scouts there to come with him, Tampa Bay's amateur assessments are very, very good, and I'd love to have some of those minds here with him.
It's funny how I found an article about Yzerman selling his 3 million Tampa house on last August (which Dan Girardi did buy), and at same time came those rumors about Holland wanting a Seattle job...
Not really, we know about Holland to Seattle. Easy transfer of power.
This has been a message around the team for a while. Yzerman never moved and we always knew the pull was serious. Glad he is hopefully only a year away. I hope he brings Verbeek back.
I was thinking that too, what's fair is fair.His were ours to begin with by and large. I will not feel bad about targeting them. One of the more interesting problems was I always thought the Ilitch family let him take a little too much. I understood, they view him as a son. Heck it is a part of what makes a lot of this a promising potential reality.
I have never known him to own more than a condo in Tampa. He has a house down in Naples, FL. I have run into him a few times down here. But it has been out for years he never sold his house. I know several people that have been on the same flights out of Tampa or Ft Myers with him.
I was thinking that too, what's fair is fair.
Also, where'd you run into him, TZE?
Also, TZE, I didn't consider this until now, but you're going to need a new username soon, huh?
Wow, I cannot believe you are doubling down on this. It's pure lunacy.So before Holland signed his current deal, Yzerman was one good candidate among many. (And there were even some posters here claiming he was overrated.)
Now that he might actually be coming here in a year or two, he's a man amongst boys, and Detroit would be insane to go after anybody else.
I realize that, in that interval, he made the Conference Finals again and signed Kucherov to a great deal. And I'm not saying he isn't a great option, because he absolutely is one. But let's pump the brakes on anointing him as the only possible guy for the job, at least until there's a list of names to begin with.
Conducting an honest search isn't a disservice or insult to Yzerman, should he become officially available. It's called due diligence...and if nothing else, it might unearth one or more excellent candidates for other positions on the staff that Detroit might not otherwise consider.
<--- Could it finally be happening?!
So before Holland signed his current deal, Yzerman was one good candidate among many. (And there were even some posters here claiming he was overrated.)
Now that he might actually be coming here in a year or two, he's a man amongst boys, and Detroit would be insane to go after anybody else.
I realize that, in that interval, he made the Conference Finals again and signed Kucherov to a great deal. And I'm not saying he isn't a great option, because he absolutely is one. But let's pump the brakes on anointing him as the only possible guy for the job, at least until there's a list of names to begin with.
Conducting an honest search isn't a disservice or insult to Yzerman, should he become officially available. It's called due diligence...and if nothing else, it might unearth one or more excellent candidates for other positions on the staff that Detroit might not otherwise consider.
Not really, we know about Holland to Seattle. Easy transfer of power.
I never said that I (or anybody else) could find a better candidate. I even specifically said he very well could be the right guy for the job.Wow, I cannot believe you are doubling down on this. It's pure lunacy.
And you're thinking you can possibly find a more qualified candidate? This isn't to say it's a guarantee he will do as well here as he's done in Tampa, it's just acknowledging you are not going to get a more qualified candidate. The most likely reason he's stepping down right now is because he's going to take over in Detroit, not just so he can interview for a job. It's absolutely mind-boggling that you think this is the case.
- He's built a Stanley Cup contender.
- He's done very well in free agency.
- Done an excellent job managing the cap while being competitive
- His drafting has been excellent.
- He gets the culture in Detroit.
- He's had a lot of success making trades.
Come on man. I can't believe what I just read.
I love TBL's scouting director Al Murray.
And I wouldn't be surprised, if Holland takes Kelowna-buddy Tyler Wright also to Seattle.
Anything other than Yzerman would be a colossal failure for DRW. We don’t need to be PC. Give Yzerman the keys and be done with it.So before Holland signed his current deal, Yzerman was one good candidate among many. (And there were even some posters here claiming he was overrated.)
Now that he might actually be coming here in a year or two, he's a man amongst boys, and Detroit would be insane to go after anybody else.
I realize that, in that interval, he made the Conference Finals again and signed Kucherov to a great deal. And I'm not saying he isn't a great option, because he absolutely is one. But let's pump the brakes on anointing him as the only possible guy for the job, at least until there's a list of names to begin with.
Conducting an honest search isn't a disservice or insult to Yzerman, should he become officially available. It's called due diligence...and if nothing else, it might unearth one or more excellent candidates for other positions on the staff that Detroit might not otherwise consider.
The Rooney Rule? Okay you are completely out of it. You must be a Lions fan. Hmm, let me see our options are Kris Draper or Steve Yzerman. Real tough decision there. The only way there will be an interview process will be if Yzerman is legitimately taking a step back and is not ready to be a GM again. That's the only scenario where he is not our next GM.But making "an obvious hire", and completely bypassing the interview process along the way, is a very fanbois way to run an organization. (It's also what led to sports leagues developing things like The Rooney Rule.) Assuming you have the time and resources to conduct an organized search, those GM interviews can also lead to surprise candidates for assistant GM, player personnel positions, scouting positions, and more.
The Rooney Rule? Okay you are completely out of it. You must be a Lions fan. Hmm, let me see our options are Kris Draper or Steve Yzerman. Real tough decision there. The only way there will be an interview process will be if Yzerman is legitimately taking a step back and is not ready to be a GM again. That's the only scenario where he is not our next GM.
But if you want to think Stan Bowman, and David Poile are going to drop everything to interview for a lateral move to Detroit then have fun with that.
I'm not saying Detroit should take six months to consult The Dalai Lama.