The Macho King
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I think the deal was five years because Steven wanted five years, not because of Yzerman or anyone else.
Player Discussion: Steven Stamkos
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TheDaysOf 04
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Why give him 10m a year when he accepts 7.5m? I believe it was Espo who said Vinny would have taken less but the cowboys through those big numbers at him, so what was he suppose to do, not take it? Unfortunately that contract became too much for us to move forward with. You get yourself in trouble doing 10 year deals. What if Stammer's injury this year was way worse and he was never the same again? What Yzerman gave Stammer is a good deal. Besides the league was cracking down on big contracts, and I'm sure Yzerman was keeping in mind that the CBA and cap ceiling would change in a season.
Stammer never wanted to go anywhere but here and Yzerman was completely sold on Stammer. They both worked out something that's good for both sides and Stammer is being paid fairly. There's no worry with him just because it's 5 years. He's our franchise player. Stammer's going to be here for a while.
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Lord Stan 2020
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Ya we might as well trade him for a 7th round pick at this point. Or maybe clarkson ya thats it.
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Nobody should take it for granted that Stamkos will be here long term. He is only under contract for two more seasons, then has the freedom to sign where he wants. I don't think anybody should really worry about him leaving (other than Yzerman) before the end of next summer. Nor do I think he has said or done anything to imply he's looking to move on elsewhere when his contract is up. But, by the same token, until he signs an extension it is a possibility we shouldn't overlook.
Honestly, this is the most worrying aspect of believing we shouldn't be pressing for cup contention because the kids aren't ready. Or that we should wholesale turn the team over to the kids (moreso than we have already) and hope it all works out in the end. If we take a lottery-bound type of step back next season we'll be skating on thin ice with regards to a Stamkos extension getting done the offseason before his contract expires. You don't waste ANY of the most prime years one of the best players in the world has to offer just so some fringe NHL prospects get a shot to work through all their growing pains. Lesser leagues are for 'learning'. If the kids can't beat out veteran players that have demonstrable capacity in the roles the kids are projected to, then they don't deserve to play in the NHL. If we can't compete with Stamkos we should not be surprised to lose him in two years.
I'm not trying to start Stammergeddon early and hope he has a long productive career leading the Lightning to their next three or four cups. If we don't try to contend for one every year Stamkos is here, we don't deserve to keep him.
Honestly, this is the most worrying aspect of believing we shouldn't be pressing for cup contention because the kids aren't ready. Or that we should wholesale turn the team over to the kids (moreso than we have already) and hope it all works out in the end. If we take a lottery-bound type of step back next season we'll be skating on thin ice with regards to a Stamkos extension getting done the offseason before his contract expires. You don't waste ANY of the most prime years one of the best players in the world has to offer just so some fringe NHL prospects get a shot to work through all their growing pains. Lesser leagues are for 'learning'. If the kids can't beat out veteran players that have demonstrable capacity in the roles the kids are projected to, then they don't deserve to play in the NHL. If we can't compete with Stamkos we should not be surprised to lose him in two years.
I'm not trying to start Stammergeddon early and hope he has a long productive career leading the Lightning to their next three or four cups. If we don't try to contend for one every year Stamkos is here, we don't deserve to keep him.
Lord Stan 2020
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I take it that he is smart enough to stay with what we are building. I agree he could move on. What will say is hear a lot or often toronto will give him an outrageous deal. He is UFA so don't believe someone can offer sheet him. So at least that is out. I am pretty tired right now so could be wrong.
No matter what canadians believe the best players in the world are not beating down doors to go play for the home team
Toronto is such a mess if stamkos went there I would say bon voyage. We showed last year can win without Stammer not that I want to
Even beyond his playing he is a great person. I really like him for his qualities beyond scoring and being our leader on the ice etc..
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Exactly
Trust me if Stevie could have locked him up forever he would have. that's what you do when you have a player like Crosby, Ovechkin or Stamkos. I believe Stamkos already had the most goals of any player for his time in the NHL when he signed his contract and everyone knew who he was there was no more guessing at that point.
TheDaysOf 04
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Expected but still great news. Hope he picks up where he left off prior to November 11th 2013
It's going to be so hard to wait through this summer, man. A lot of positives going into next season, and this might be the biggest one. If we get the two-way beast-mode Stamkos back + end of season Palat + elite level Hedman + elite level Bishop... Not a lot more needs to go right.
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Cooper has to give him good line mates. When he played alongside Killorn and Purcell... Ugh, that was terrible to watch. That line with TyJo in the middle and Drej in the left was beauty to watch. That should be our first line.
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Steven Stamkos' next contract
In light of the Toews and Kane contracts (8 years, $84M, $10.5M per) how does this fair for Stamkos in the coming seasons? Are we looking at locking him up for another 5 years? It really comes down to what Stamkos wants I would think - which may be longer. Maybe 8 years, $100M, $12.5M per?
I always thought Yzerman would do his best to resign him this season to an extension...
In light of the Toews and Kane contracts (8 years, $84M, $10.5M per) how does this fair for Stamkos in the coming seasons? Are we looking at locking him up for another 5 years? It really comes down to what Stamkos wants I would think - which may be longer. Maybe 8 years, $100M, $12.5M per?
I always thought Yzerman would do his best to resign him this season to an extension...
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The Macho King
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I don't know if he's allowed to re-sign him this season - I thought you could only extend in the year before FA. Still, he's going to get paid.
Kusic
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Hope Yzerman will convince Stamkos to less cap-hit, but probably not too much. So I guess something like 8 years - 88 mil. - 11 mil. per.
In other cases, I am wondering, how much money will earn Hedman and Bishop. Hedman's new contract may depends on new Subban' contract. Bishop will get little more than Schneider, I guess. So Hedman 7+ mil. per season and Bishop 6.5-7 mil. per season.
In other cases, I am wondering, how much money will earn Hedman and Bishop. Hedman's new contract may depends on new Subban' contract. Bishop will get little more than Schneider, I guess. So Hedman 7+ mil. per season and Bishop 6.5-7 mil. per season.
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They're already discussing it on the main boards: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1706525
It's probably gonna be this:
It's probably gonna be this:
Todd1a
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I would say stamkos will ask for 13 million a year and they settle for 11.5 per season 8 year term.
Todd1a
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RDTBay4
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I really don't care how insane his salary will be, gotta lock him up for as long as possible. He is one of the most prolific scorers in the league, no way Mr. Vinik and Yzerman will let him walk.
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I'll let the Yzerplan handle this. No need to waste my time when Yzerman's always pulling moves out of nowhere that no one expects.
Lord Stan 2020
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This I said if subban hit 8 and toews went over 10 than stammer gets 12. Is logical.
Now bishop? He does NOT have Schneider's resume. So something similar will be fair doubt he gets more unless he is lights out we win the cup and he is vezina in landslide.
So something around 6 x 6.
Hedman is gonna get paid but a long way off. If Hedman improves which he can he is seriously going to get paid like 10 million when he comes up.
We have the money and will work it out. Good news is expansion will happen soon
Should be right in window where we need the extra bucks to keep the team together and keep winning cups!!
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Unless Stamkos somehow sucks over the next two year (very very unlikely), he is going to get paid. Anything less than $12 mil AAV would really surprise me.
This I said if subban hit 8 and toews went over 10 than stammer gets 12. Is logical.
Now bishop? He does NOT have Schneider's resume. So something similar will be fair doubt he gets more unless he is lights out we win the cup and he is vezina in landslide.
So something around 6 x 6.
Hedman is gonna get paid but a long way off. If Hedman improves which he can he is seriously going to get paid like 10 million when he comes up.
We have the money and will work it out. Good news is expansion will happen soon
Bishop's contract will depend largely on this year. If he's a Vezina candidate again, he'll get more than Schneider. If he's not, he'll get somewhere in the same neighborhood. I wouldn't bet on anything less than 5.5 though. And if we have any faith in Bishop at all, it's probably going to be close to 7.
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