Player Discussion: Steven Stamkos - Part 8

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  1. DFC

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    I think it's closer to 35 games now. We've seen Stamkos play well in flashes, but it's been a while since anybody's pointed him out as our worst player on a given night. That used to be a real thing.

    Agreed that this is a new player. It's like he's suddenly combined the player he used to be with the player he's been trying to become. I think he had lost confidence in his shot. He mentioned something to that effect in an interview, shortly after the Nashville game, and how, he "hadn't felt the puck come off his stick like that in a long time," or something to that effect.

    It's kind of weird that after an off-season where we didn't make any moves, we've had all these improvements. I mean, every single one of our centers is better than last year, even though it's exactly the same group.
     
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    This is what I keep trying to highlight on the main board, in particular in the "why won't the same Caps roster beat the same Bolts roster" discussions. Though on paper it is the same roster (putting Cernak and Joseph to the side for a moment -- huge pluses on the balance sheet), it really is vastly different. It reminds me of a common legal argument: courts should look at the underlying substance of an issue over the technical form. McD is healthy and finally acclimated; Gourde is better; Cirelli is better; Stammer is better; Point is better; Sergachev is better. Arguably, other players could make this list too. But the point remains the same: the 2018-2019 roster would handily beat the 2017-2018 roster in a 7 game series.

    P.S. I hope in our eventual series against the Caps, they tell themselves there is nothing to worry about because they already beat us last season.
     
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    Wasn't that Montreal game at home here and it was Marty St. Louis night?

    Because it might very well be a combination of all you've said plus a push by his mentor that got him into this new mindset. I think I remember him playing like a man possessed with St. Louis watching.

    I think. Memory isn't what it used to be. :P
     
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    It's crazy how much a little more confidence in his shot has opened up his passing game. This is the first time I've really felt like Stamkos makes his linemates better.
     
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    As you all have stated, Stamkos is back! And it is exciting as hell watching him again. The plays and goals hes been producing have truly been elite.
     
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    How does that saying about when you're thinking too hard you'll get in your own way? We could all see it. I really think it boils down to that he truly lost faith in his shot. Now that he "has it back" he's defaulting to shooting first and it is taking stress off his game and is merely doing what feels right as a playmaker now that he can just go back out to fight another day on his next shift because he will try shooting it next.

    Case in point on making linemates better look at Gourde's goal. Stamkos thought shot first but the rebound hopped off the back wall and went to Gourde. It's a good luck bounce but the payoff of the adage when you shoot good things happen. Having faith in his shot again has literally fixed almost everything. Even 4 months ago Stamkos wouldve pulled up, hesitated and fumbled the puck away like he was trying to solve a Rubik's cube while playing a game of tag.

    Instead he decided to be aggressive and shoot and it was the best possible pass Gourde could have gotten
     
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    Stammer's shooting a lot better, but to my eye the real difference is his speed and decisiveness when he has the puck. He's creating a lot of chances on his own by proactively attacking defenders and driving towards the net. He looks aggressive again, and fearless. I'd honestly forgotten the way Stammer used to play when he was younger. He seems to have found that top-of-the-foodchain killer instinct again.

    Lol, nice. Pretty accurate, too.
     
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    This partly explains his resurgence. In my opinion, though, the underlying catalyst is the fact that Stammer finally feels healthy, and like he can fully trust his legs and knees. The perfect example is his first goal last night. To step around the defenseman like he did, Stammer had to make an explosive move sideways with his knee. It is subtle. But without the ability to trust your body, you don’t make that instant move. You play it more conservative, and that led to a less dynamic Stammer. Like you said, he finally is in attack mode. Yet I believe this is because he feels amply capable for the first time in years. This has led to better edge work, more speed and the puck flying off his stick like 2011.

    The beauty is, like others have said, he had to learn to be more creative and a playmaker the last few years. So he now has re-created himself and is a more diverse player now.
     
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    I'm just really happy he has found his game again by himself. He was struggling a lot in the starting of the season and wasn't even PPG but now he has 57 points in 49 games. I really hope he keeps this up need to see him hit a 40 goal season again. If we have this Stamkos in the playoffs, the rest of the east is going to be even more worried.
     
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    A lot of talk about Stamkos's great performances as of late thought I might as well bump this thread back up. He leads our team in SOG which is also very good to see.

    1. Stamkos - 153 SOG
    2. Kucherov - 137 SOG
    3. Point - 127 SOG
     
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    Where does he rank in the league as far as FO%, and how many of the centers on that list are point producers?
     
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    *all star mode activated*
     
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    That is sick! Stamkos beast mode is what this team needs in the playoffs.
     
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    AlwaysSunnyInTampa LOLZ! This friggin sucks dude!

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    Heh I remember him pulling that off in juniors and it was all the rage for a hot second
     
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    Fake fan alert. That was behind both legs, not through them.
     
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    Also, dafuq is wrong with Pierre? Why focus on Malkin's freaking gloves so much?
     
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    Pierre is a ****ing weirdo. he's so creepy.
     
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    Didn't notice but Stamkos is on a 7 point streak :nod:. Longest point streak of the season.

    11 Points (4G 7A) in 7 Games for the captain
     
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    happy 29th captain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Happy birthday to the man himself
     
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    Its amazing how good he looks. Wasnt many if any that saw this coming. It was one thing that he did it for a stretch but hes done it since November now. If this Stamkos shows up for the playoffs we should at least be better than we were last year. Dont know if that brings us a cup but I like the increased chances.
     
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    - Been in the league for 11 season.

    - 9x full season (one being the 48gm lockout where he scored 29g and 23g his 18 yr old rookie year).

    - The year he broke his leg he had 25g in 37gm.

    - In his 7x full season hes scored 30+ goals in 6 of them (twice over 40, once over 50 and once over 60).

    - 378g/721gm career.

    - 0.52 career goals per game average.

    - 43g per 82gm season career average.


    Perspective: since 08-09 Ovechkin has 482g/814gm. 0.59 goals per game. 48g per 82 game season.
     
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    Different player than pre-Nashville game/post leg-break. This is the first half of 2013 Stamkos for the past 35~ games, completely night and day, I doubt anyone thought he could get back to this level but he's done it. Contract looks amazing right now.
     

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