Player Discussion: Steven Stamkos - Part 8

[Hoek]

 

[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

Great shot

 

[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

After scoring his 19th and 20th goals of the season yesterday, Steven Stamkos is now in the top 100 for players with 20 goal seasons.

 

[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Stammer scores #417. Next few guys in front of him are all former bolts. Director of player personnel Bill Barber, former Lightning assistant coach Steve Thomas, and ex-bolts Stephane Richer and Vinny Lecavalier.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

 

[The Gongshow]

Its crazy to me that Stammer is turning 30. Feels like he was 26 for a while

 

[Zwui21]

 

[LightningStrikes]

Already at 800 games despite all the injuries and a lockout. Go Stammer!

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Is anyone else concerned with this injury? His play hasn’t been great and it’s a big year for us in the playoffs.

I have a feeling he will be a “non factor” when we really need him to be a “factor”

 

[LightningStrikes]

 

[The Gongshow]

While the team has shown they can step up and win without him, they are much better with him in the lineup.

he still gets alot of attention from other players and can open up the ice for other players, he can still manage to "get lost" in the o-zone and get a good shot or scoring opportunity. A lot of PK's like to cheat and stay close to him for the onetimer which can open up someone in the slot.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

an update on the NHL's all time goal scoring list:

69	Rick Nash	437
	Pavel Bure	437
71	Eric Staal	436
72	Vincent Damphousse	432
73	Dave Taylor	431
74	Alex Kovalev	430
75	Bill Guerin	429
76	Yvan Cournoyer	428
77	Brian Propp	425
78	Steve Shutt	424
79	Steven Stamkos	422
	Owen Nolan	422

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

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[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

 

[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

The suggestion that they "stepped up" in 2016-'17 when they ended up missing the playoffs altogether is strikingly disingenuous. Even without Stamkos, that team was more than good enough to make the playoffs and it was an embarrassment that they fell short. Made even worse when you see which team from the Atlantic bracket ended up making a deep playoff run.

 

[The Macho King]

None of these records outside of 15/16 playoffs and 19/20 are actually good.

 

[Go Bolts]

What will the Lightning organization do with Stamkos next season?

 

[Sky04]

We just have Boston's number, either the Flyers or the Islanders will be a lot harder. Definitely think we'll need him for the next series to win, scoring depth is going to be key.

 

[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

What will the Lightning organization do with Stamkos next season?

Stamkos has a NMC, he is not going anywhere. He was fine in the regular season this year but his injury problems are always going to leave a dark cloud over his career.

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

We just have Boston's number, either the Flyers or the Islanders will be a lot harder. Definitely think we'll need him for the next series to win, scoring depth is going to be key.

You know, I just can't agree. I mean, I can see the Islanders because of Trotz and because they play a similar game to the Jackets, but regardless, I don't think either of these teams is as good as the Bruins. And I know what you're suggesting - that it's a matchup thing more than a skill thing - but I can't concern myself with that, personally. If we get past the Bruins, I 100% us to beat whoever we face next. This isn't quite 2018 where our ECF was going to either be the Penguins (x2 defending Cup champions) or Capitals (who have had our number for pretty much Ovechkin's entire career). We're better than both of these teams, and I don't even think it's particularly close.

If we win this series and fail to win the next, that's a spectacular failure. From where we stand right now - up 3-1 in this series - there's literally zero excuses to not reach the SCF at this point. Zero.

 

[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

We just have Boston's number, either the Flyers or the Islanders will be a lot harder. Definitely think we'll need him for the next series to win, scoring depth is going to be key.

He will do wonders for us in the faceoff and power play department should he be able to come back (hopefully). It sucks that we don't even know if he is skating or not but at least he is still in the bubble.

 

[Sky04]

You know, I just can't agree. I mean, I can see the Islanders because of Trotz and because they play a similar game to the Jackets, but regardless, I don't think either of these teams is as good as the Bruins. And I know what you're suggesting - that it's a matchup thing more than a skill thing - but I can't concern myself with that, personally. If we get past the Bruins, I 100% us to beat whoever we face next. This isn't quite 2018 where our ECF was going to either be the Penguins (x2 defending Cup champions) or Capitals (who have had our number for pretty much Ovechkin's entire career). We're better than both of these teams, and I don't even think it's particularly close.

If we win this series and fail to win the next, that's a spectacular failure. From where we stand right now - up 3-1 in this series - there's literally zero excuses to not reach the SCF at this point. Zero.

It's a matchup thing, Boston dusted Columbus and still struggled this year despite then getting much weaker. Without Stamkos and McDonagh our roster is a bit better than the other 2 teams but we've spent all these guys constructing a power house roster it sucks if it doesn't get utilized.

 

[Go Bolts]

Should Stamkos remain Captain next season, and will Point and/or Kucherov finally get a letter?

 

[Sky04]

Should Stamkos remain Captain next season, and will Point and/or Kucherov finally get a letter?

1. Yes

2. Point maybe if Killorn is traded.