Player Discussion: Steven Stamkos - Part 8

[Coopers Gum]

His play tonight, just ****ign awful. There's nothing that can explain it except that's what a player who can't handle pressure looks like.

Until a cup win, his career will be defined by that "assist" to Panarin.

Come on. It was an empty net, and a weird play. I'm not above criticizing Stamkos, but to say his career will be defined by that play is a bit much.

 

[Sky04]

Come on. It was an empty net, and a weird play. I'm not above criticizing Stamkos, but to say his career will be defined by that play is a bit much.

Stamkos will never get full recognition for any of his regular season accolades with the playoff history he has, and that game and play was the cherry on top. Look at Thornton the guy has nearly 1500 career points far above anyone in his era and its still criticized because of a couple playoff struggles and no cup.

 

[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

Stamkos will never get full recognition for any of his regular season accolades with the playoff history he has, and that game and play was the cherry on top. Look at Thornton the guy has nearly 1500 career points far above anyone in his era and its still criticized because of a couple playoff struggles and no cup.

Stamkos is my favorite player, and this is true. Guy went on a tear this year, but it is all for nothing.

 

[Lightning1995]

Stammer is not a playoff performer

And he never will be.

 

[Hoek]

His peak as a Captain was the first day he stepped out of the tunnel out of the trade deadline. Downhill ever since.

Should never give stars the C, imo. There's literally no upside to it. Leave it for the Dave Andreychucks and Tim Taylors of the world.

 

[ccman68]

Should give Cirelli the C. Don’t see why not. Stamkos should just focus on scoring a goal every now and then.

 

[Master P]

Not sure what good it does trying to pin things on individual players, whether it be Stamkos, McD, Kuch, etc..... The entire team was a let down. Need a new voice behind the bench. It was obvious that the players had tuned cooper out. Need to get some guys with some size on the team as well.

 

[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

Not sure what good it does trying to pin things on individual players, whether it be Stamkos, McD, Kuch, etc..... The entire team was a let down. Need a new voice behind the bench. It was obvious that the players had tuned cooper out. Need to get some guys with some size on the team as well.

Was thinking about this as well. I wonder who we could get. Maybe someone in the draft, but I feel like we are going to get a defenceman from the draft.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Too little too late but that one was a beauty:

 

[Lightning1995]

He’s just not a playoff producer. Great guy that will put up numbers in the regular season.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Matt Duchene prior to going head to head with Stamkos. 6gp - 0g - 6a - 6p -3. Against Stamkos 4gp - 3g - 4a - 7p +5. Stamkos 4gp - 1g - 1a - 2p -8. How the hell are you a -8 in 4 friggin games?

July 1st 2024 is going to be like Christmas for me.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

lmao are you guys actually trying to blame stamkos? along with cirelli killorn and point, he was one of our few forwards who actually gave a f*** in this series

 

[HoseEmDown]

lmao are you guys actually trying to blame stamkos? along with cirelli killorn and point, he was one of our few forwards who actually gave a **** in this series

When you are a -8 and the C you're matched up with is a +5, then yes you deserve a ton of blame.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Stamkos didnt have a good series, but again none of our top guys did. I can point at them just as much as I point at Coop. This was a team effort. Or lack thereof.

 

[These Are The Days]

Take the "C" off him like now..... there were times his play actually stood out favorably compared to the rest of the crap we saw on the ice but it was still crap. The whole team playing like a bunch of scolded dogs for 4 games is a reflection of piss poor leadership by not only himself but the coaching staff.

I'm done Steven. I like you but I'm done. It's time someone for someone else to be given command.

 

[The Macho King]

Stamkos didnt have a good series, but again none of our top guys did. I can point at them just as much as I point at Coop. This was a team effort. Or lack thereof.

True - a lot of people played like shit.

But here's the thing: Kucherov has shown up before. We know he has it, he just didn't have it this series (which is a problem, but it doesn't seem systemic). Point - kid is still really young, but he also is providing something when he's not scoring, so once again, I'll give him a bit of a pass.

I can count the number of good playoff games Stamkos has had on one hand in his entire career. With him, it's a personality trait. He's a f***ing choker through and through.

 

[Sky04]

True - a lot of people played like ****.

But here's the thing: Kucherov has shown up before. We know he has it, he just didn't have it this series (which is a problem, but it doesn't seem systemic). Point - kid is still really young, but he also is providing something when he's not scoring, so once again, I'll give him a bit of a pass.

I can count the number of good playoff games Stamkos has had on one hand in his entire career. With him, it's a personality trait. He's a ****ing choker through and through.

Kucherov was the most dangerous forward last night, he was "quiet" but he creates a ton of space in the offensive zone, I'm noticing guys are backing off him more and more.

 

[Lightning1995]

Has Steven had his last name changed to Duchene yet? Is the formal adoption complete?

 

[Sky04]

Nathan MacKinnon is what Stamkos should've been in the playoffs

 

[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

Nathan MacKinnon is what Stamkos should've been in the playoffs

That guy is an absolute beast. I was saying this to a couple of people I know too. I wish Stamkos was like MacKinnon in the payoffs, but I guess somethings aren't meant to be

 

[These Are The Days]

True - a lot of people played like ****.

But here's the thing: Kucherov has shown up before. We know he has it, he just didn't have it this series (which is a problem, but it doesn't seem systemic). Point - kid is still really young, but he also is providing something when he's not scoring, so once again, I'll give him a bit of a pass.

I can count the number of good playoff games Stamkos has had on one hand in his entire career. With him, it's a personality trait. He's a ****ing choker through and through.

I couldn't have said it better

 

[Lightning1995]

He needs to accept a permanent move to the wing and make it work. He’s a sniper not a 200 foot player.

 

[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

He needs to accept a permanent move to the wing and make it work. He’s a sniper not a 200 foot player.

I would like to see what he can do playing the left or right wing (I believe he played the left wing in our last playoff game), but I don't see Cooper doing that. He is going to want to put Stamkos at center, because it gives us depth with Point and Cirelli

 

[Lightning1995]

I would like to see what he can do playing the left or right wing (I believe he played the left wing in our last playoff game), but I don't see Cooper doing that. He is going to want to put Stamkos at center, because it gives us depth with Point and Cirelli

He can’t defend the position against another legit threat. See Duchene

 

[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

He can’t defend the position against another legit threat. See Duchene

Yeah, that is true. Personally, I would like to see him play on Cirelli's wing