Steam #17 - PC gaming, sales, discussion, etc.

[Tonneau]

You know, as barebones as Epic Games store is, the AAA games they've got on there are really cheap. 50 bucks canadian for metro exodus and 60 bucks canadian for division 2. I can respect that competitive pricing.

Those prices are in USD.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Never played Borderlands before.. Should I start with the first one? or go straight for #2?
Last really good RPG I played was the Witcher 3 with all the DLCs.. need some recommendations for some new stuff..

Absolutely start with the first one.

 

[aleshemsky83]

Those prices are in USD.

Really, that makes sense. My mistake.

 

[aleshemsky83]

Absolutely start with the first one.

im the opposite, I say don't start with the first one, the second one is much better and will be less enjoyable if you already played Borderlands 1.

 

[Gardner McKay]

im the opposite, I say don't start with the first one, the second one is much better and will be less enjoyable if you already played Borderlands 1.

I'm sorry, what? Understanding the back story for the second game by playing the first one will somehow make it less enjoyable?

 

[Commander Clueless]

Never played Borderlands before.. Should I start with the first one? or go straight for #2?

Skip both and go straight for Tales from the Borderlands.

 

[Grave]

Picked up Deliverance, haven't gotten to the piggy scene yet or the medieval equivalent.

 

[Warden of the North]

Never played Borderlands before.. Should I start with the first one? or go straight for #2?
Last really good RPG I played was the Witcher 3 with all the DLCs.. need some recommendations for some new stuff..

BL2 is 100x better then 1. Skip 1. BL2 is better in every single way.

One almost feels like a it was a proof of concept and two is the game they really wanted to make. Its bigger and far more refined, a superb gane.

Its one a few games I can think of where the sequel is better in every way (that doesnt involve technological changes in hardware).

 

[Scygen]

Thanks for the info guys. I think that's what I will do, go straight to number 2. I'm interested in the storyline.. But I'd rather go straight to the good stuff.

 

[Tonneau]

Thanks for the info guys. I think that's what I will do, go straight to number 2. I'm interested in the storyline.. But I'd rather go straight to the good stuff.

Borderlands 2 tells you pretty much everything you need to know about the first game's storyline.

 

[Warden of the North]

Thanks for the info guys. I think that's what I will do, go straight to number 2. I'm interested in the storyline.. But I'd rather go straight to the good stuff.

Just watch a youtube recap of one.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Really, that makes sense. My mistake.

Yeah it always seems to take platforms a while to adjust for alternative currencies.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I'm sorry, what? Understanding the back story for the second game by playing the first one will somehow make it less enjoyable?

There is no story in the original.

The first one is essentially a proof of concept. The second one is much, mich better in every single aspect.

 

[Frankie Spankie]

After my old PC died on Christmas Eve, I bought a new PC but kept my old GTX 980 because you couldn't find much at a good price for new GPUs. I was aching for a new one since the GPU was obviously a huge bottleneck. I got a good deal at Micro Center for a 2080Ti, feels like the jump from console generations with graphics settings but I even get the frame rate.

This is my benchmark of Shadow of the Tomb Raider with everything maxed at 1440p except AA and motion blur off:

Feels so good!

 

[SniperHF]

Maybe someone can help me out here, there seems to be this thing over the last 2-3 years where people start getting hyped or even outright demand DLC before a game is even released.
Why not just ask for more base content if you're asking for stuff
Is it some sort of seeded marketing crap with fake accounts or are people just that whipped now

 

[Commander Clueless]

Maybe someone can help me out here, there seems to be this thing over the last 2-3 years where people start getting hyped or even outright demand DLC before a game is even released.
Why not just ask for more base content if you're asking for stuff
Is it some sort of seeded marketing crap with fake accounts or are people just that whipped now

I don't get it myself, but I think it has a lot to do with people wanting to know a game will be supported post launch.

Some people really value the amount of time they can sink into a game, hence the evolution of the "live service" model. Unfortunately, many devs/publishers trying to use that model completely neglect what makes it good - actual content updates to an already good game post launch, and not just a bunch of crap.






No....I've decided I like the conspiracy theory better. Let's go with deep seeded market conditioning.

....I would not put it past any of the big developers. In fact, considering some of the (blatantly patented) manipulation tactics to get people to buy more skins and the like, I'd say it's likely they've at least tried.

 

[SniperHF]

I don't get it myself, but I think it has a lot to do with people wanting to know a game will be supported post launch.

Unless it's an MMO or MP only game (and the couple three games I have in mind aren't) I don't really consider DLC "support".

I think if a game comes out and it's pretty good and the fanbase starts asking for DLC that's one thing. I'll pay for good stuff. It just seems barmy to me to ask for characters/locations/etc 6 months before a release in a separate content pack you have to pay for

 

[Commander Clueless]

Unless it's an MMO or MP only game (and the couple three games I have in mind aren't) I don't really consider DLC "support".

I think if a game comes out and it's pretty good and the fanbase starts asking for DLC that's one thing. I'll pay for good stuff. It just seems barmy to me to ask for characters/locations/etc 6 months before a release in a separate content pack you have to pay for

Oh I agree with you, but I don't think everyone agrees with us.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Unless it's an MMO or MP only game (and the couple three games I have in mind aren't) I don't really consider DLC "support".

I think if a game comes out and it's pretty good and the fanbase starts asking for DLC that's one thing. I'll pay for good stuff. It just seems barmy to me to ask for characters/locations/etc 6 months before a release in a separate content pack you have to pay for

Thing is, great DLC is sort of like hooking up with that hot ex girlfriend: you had great times, you've moved and you get a booty call. You get to enjoy something you know you liked before while discovering a few changes/new quirks.

Very few great DLC these days unfortunately. People usually remember the highs, it's been a while but The Witcher 3 DLC really got people on board for awesome DLC.

 

[SniperHF]

If you like (proper) RPGs, this game is a treat:


It has some writing jank due to being translated from Russian, and it probably wasn't written all that well to begin with tbh. But almost everything else is aces. It's the best Fallout-like since.....Fallout 2 probably.

 

[RandV]

Thing is, great DLC is sort of like hooking up with that hot ex girlfriend: you had great times, you've moved and you get a booty call. You get to enjoy something you know you liked before while discovering a few changes/new quirks.

Very few great DLC these days unfortunately. People usually remember the highs, it's been a while but The Witcher 3 DLC really got people on board for awesome DLC.

That's because what the Witcher 3 offered is an expansion pack, which has always been a thing on PC. One of my pet peeves with the PC markets consoleization the last or so 10 years is the lack of distinction by the community between 'DLC' and an 'expansion pack'. Using the Civilization series as an example a DLC is paying $5.50 for the Nubia Civilizaion and Scenario pack that adds a single civ, a wonder, and a custom scenario to the game. An expansion pack is paying $50CDN (used to start at $30 so getting pricier) for Gathering Storm which adds a shitload of new stuff and completely revamps & improves the base game.

 

[Frankie Spankie]

If you like (proper) RPGs, this game is a treat:


It has some writing jank due to being translated from Russian, and it probably wasn't written all that well to begin with tbh. But almost everything else is aces. It's the best Fallout-like since.....Fallout 2 probably.

I saw Lirik playing it a bit and remember when he was making a character. This was one of the character portraits:



It's literally just this popular mugshot image flipped lol:

 

[SniperHF]

It's literally just this popular mugshot image flipped lol:

Yes they have a lot of those, it's mildly amusing since most of the NPCs are based on something like that.
I've run into Cybill Shepard and Robert LaSardo so far

Surprised they haven't gotten a cease and desist yet.

 

[John Price]

Yakuza Kiwami (Yakuza 1) dropped for PC today.

0 is pretty good so be curious how they go with 1.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Should we have a discord channel?