State of the Devils Thread (Long Questionnaire)

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  1. glenwo2 BRATT NEEDS A BETTER COACH!!!

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    Well if Fitz stays, then you better believe that Castron stays also.
     
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    I said both will probably stay. It will be interesting to see how/if the strategy will change under Fitz.
     
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    man you are out there I think you think the #1 pick has to put up mcdavid numbers. I wish that was true but it’s not.

    nico still has put up the most points in his draft class. Yeah he had a down year on a down team last year if he didn’t miss time he would’ve probably surpassed his rookie year total. If you think that’s a bust? I dunno.

    now look at Zacha draft class and see where he ranks in production for guys taken after him. It isn’t even remotely close! It’s great I’m happy Zacha is a 3rd line player but newsflash he wasn’t drafted to be a 3rd line center and if you consider drafting a 3rd line center at 6 with all that talent left on the board after him? That’s a huge fail and I know you agree with it.

    Look at mike where he was drafted and a couple of studs taken after him sure but again no where near the talent in Zacha class. Also when mike was drafted his potential was top 6-9. Double also mike went on to play a full two seasons in the juniors after he was drafted Zacha didn’t.

    I’m assuming since smith has played two junior years after his draft that you consider him a bust too? I think your going to be in the minority that think Zacha wasn’t rushed into the nhl and he shouldn’t have played that first season here.

    The further you get from 1 the more volatile a pick is going to be that’s just a fact. So if a player is going to bust just from draft position it would be mike and that might very well happen but that still doesn’t mean Zacha isn’t a bigger bust lol. Blowing the 6 pick on a 3rd liner? You aren’t going to build a winning team doing that I’m sorry.
     
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  4. Swiss Prodigy Prince of the Alps, Nico Hischier Sponsor

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    At least respect Pavel’s name change, use it from now on guys

    Pavel ‘50pts next year’ Zacha
     
  5. MadDevil Registered User

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    Didn't somebody here once bet that Loktionov would have 50 points? Or was it 40?
     
  6. glenwo2 BRATT NEEDS A BETTER COACH!!!

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    Oh yeah....I remember that running gag. :laugh:
     
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    Not even Covid-19 can dash the annual “Next year is definitely Zacha’s year” hype train.

    Every Year:

    Poster 1:

    Yo, Zacha scored 15pts in two weeks! snd His corsi is amazing.

    Poster 2:

    Yeah, but he literally only scored 15pts all year..

    Poster 1:

    Psssh, he is only 23. Next year man, BRAKE-OUT SEASON...

    (Pavel’s points the next season 16pts...)

    Poster 1:

    Still better then last season..
     
  8. NJ DevLolz Yung Jack

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    Not so sure Castron stays long term. Remember, he's Sheros guy, not Tom's. There's a decent chance he follows Ray wherever he goes
     
  9. NJDevs26 We suck again!

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    Scouts and scouting directors aren’t necessarily wedded to GM’s the way assistant coaches are with a head coach. Castron was in Columbus sixteen years under multiple GM’s before coming here. It depends in part who the new GM is and what he thinks of Castron and the prospect pool.
     
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    One would think that if Fitz is being allowed to search for the new coach, that means he is being retained. Would seem non-sensical to have the person you don’t want running the team anymore hire the new coach.
     
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    With this bizarre situation, ownerships’ hands are a little tied. The NHL is considering doing the draft in June and the offseason might be split. Which would leave very little time in September to hire a new GM and a Coach. So grain of salt on the coaching search, but I think Fitz should be safe.
     
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    who says fitz is hiring the new coach. he is currently evaluating coaching candidates. he assembles information with his interviews, which will be the basis for the decision, whom to hire as the next coach. he might be the person making the decision, he might be involved or he might just hand the information to the next GM and step down.
     
  13. glenwo2 BRATT NEEDS A BETTER COACH!!!

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    Well I'm pretty sure that him unearthing a UNICORN like Bratt among other things, would be pretty damn helpful toward a new GM's opinion of him.
     
  14. Out of Business Registered User

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    He has shown progression every year...Sure we are all left wanting more but considering a large portion of his career has been spent in the bottom 6 with guys like DSP, Bennett and Wood I don't think these numbers are all that bad - Especially for how bad our team has been

    19 years old 70 games 24 points - PPG .342 - 8th on the team in points
    20 years old 69 games 25 points - PPG .362 - 11th on the team in points
    21 years old 61 games 25 points - PPG .409 - 10th on the team in points
    22 years old 65 games 32 points - PPG .492 - 4th on the team in points

    Now take it in the context of this team -
    2020 - This season 45 points is leading our team
    2019 - Last season 50 points led our team
    2018 - Hall had 93 points and next best was 52 points
    2017 - 53 points led the team

    So Pavel is a 25 point player playing mostly from the bottom 6 on a team that maxes out at around 50 points. It doesn't look terrible to me?
     
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  15. Billdo Registered User

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    Love this.
     
  16. Bologna 1 Registered User

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    Staff:

    1) Do you want Tom Fitzgerald to remain GM. If not, then who?

    Yes, but if he doesn't Gillis of those who are likely options. Mark Hunter if talking anyone.

    2) Do you want Alain Nasreddine to remain Head Coach? If not, then who?

    No. Boudreau

    3) Do you want Paul Castron to remain as Director of Scouting?

    Yes

    Currently in the organization:

    4) Who should be the next captain?

    Nico

    5) Based on what we know now, do you think the Hischier and Hughes duo is good enough to contend?

    Yes, in the future

    6) Did Hughes's rookie season temper his future outlook in your eyes?

    Not at this point

    7) Would you support Pavel Zacha in the 3C role next season?
    Yes

    8) Does Jesper Bratt play consistently in a top 6 role going forward?

    Tweener between all three lines of the "top nine"

    9) Should the Devils re-sign Kyle Palmieri to a new deal next year?

    Yes

    10) Is Mackenzie Blackwood the Devils starting goalie in 5 years?

    Yes

    11) Which defensemen leads the team in toi next season?

    Subban

    13) Which prospect (less than 50 GP in the NHL) do you think becomes a key contributor in the next 3 years?

    Nolan Foote

    The Draft

    14) Assuming the top three goes as expected (Lafrenniere, Byfield, Stutzle), who do you want at #6?

    Assuming Lucas Raymond is off the board, either Cole Perfetti or Alexander Holtz

    15) Would you support the decision to take Jake Sanderson with the Coyotes pick at #10?

    No

    16) Would you support the decision to take Yaroslav Askarov with Vancouver's pick at #17?

    On the fence here

    Miscellaneous

    17) If given the option, should the Devils utilize a compliance buyout? If yes, then who?

    Yes - Schneider
     
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    1) Do you want Tom Fitzgerald to remain GM. If not, then who?

    Indifferent. I thought he did okay in his limited time so far. I'm fine with keeping him, fine with making a change.

    2) Do you want Alain Nasreddine to remain Head Coach? If not, then who?

    Also pretty indifferent. I don't think a coach makes a bid difference right now because I don't think we have a good team.

    3) Do you want Paul Castron to remain as Director of Scouting?

    I'm fine with him staying.

    Currently in the organization:

    4) Who should be the next captain?

    Greene if he returns. No one on the current roster if he does not.

    5) Based on what we know now, do you think the Hischier and Hughes duo is good enough to contend?

    No. Hischier has been in the league for 3 years now and looks like a good player but not a top tier forward. It's hard to imagine how Hughes's rookie year could have gone any worse.

    6) Did Hughes's rookie season temper his future outlook in your eyes?

    Yes.

    7) Would you support Pavel Zacha in the 3C role next season?

    Indifferent. I like Pavel Zacha, he is not going to make or break anything.

    8) Does Jesper Bratt play consistently in a top 6 role going forward?

    He is, in my view, clearly the best player on the team.

    9) Should the Devils re-sign Kyle Palmieri to a new deal next year?

    Yes.

    10) Is Mackenzie Blackwood the Devils starting goalie in 5 years?

    Probably. I think Palmieri, Hischier, Bratt, and Blackwood are the only good players on the team.

    11) Which defensemen leads the team in toi next season?

    Hopefully someone that is not on the roster.

    13) Which prospect (less than 50 GP in the NHL) do you think becomes a key contributor in the next 3 years?

    Ty Smith

    The Draft

    14) Assuming the top three goes as expected (Lafrenniere, Byfield, Stutzle), who do you want at #6?

    Rossi

    15) Would you support the decision to take Jake Sanderson with the Coyotes pick at #10?

    Sure, why not.

    16) Would you support the decision to take Yaroslav Askarov with Vancouver's pick at #17?

    No.

    Miscellaneous

    17) If given the option, should the Devils utilize a compliance buyout? If yes, then who?


    Indifferent. The salary cap will not be a concern for the Devils for the forseeable future.
     
  18. nugg Swamp Dragons!

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    1) Do you want Tom Fitzgerald to remain GM. If not, then who?

    Yes.

    2) Do you want Alain Nasreddine to remain Head Coach? If not, then who?

    No, Gallant

    3) Do you want Paul Castron to remain as Director of Scouting?

    Yes

    Currently in the organization:

    4) Who should be the next captain?

    Palmieri

    5) Based on what we know now, do you think the Hischier and Hughes duo is good enough to contend?

    Yes, in the future

    6) Did Hughes's rookie season temper his future outlook in your eyes?

    No, too early

    7) Would you support Pavel Zacha in the 3C role next season?
    Sure, not the end of the world if he isn’t though

    8) Does Jesper Bratt play consistently in a top 6 role going forward?

    Tweener between 2nd and 3rd lines

    9) Should the Devils re-sign Kyle Palmieri to a new deal next year?

    Yes

    10) Is Mackenzie Blackwood the Devils starting goalie in 5 years?

    Yes

    11) Which defensemen leads the team in toi next season?

    Subban

    13) Which prospect (less than 50 GP in the NHL) do you think becomes a key contributor in the next 3 years?

    Smith

    The Draft

    14) Assuming the top three goes as expected (Lafrenniere, Byfield, Stutzle), who do you want at #6?

    Holtz

    15) Would you support the decision to take Jake Sanderson with the Coyotes pick at #10?

    Sure

    16) Would you support the decision to take Yaroslav Askarov with Vancouver's pick at #17?

    Indifferent

    Miscellaneous

    17) If given the option, should the Devils utilize a compliance buyout? If yes, then who?

    Yes, Schneider
     
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    My answers are below the questions. Fun quiz!!
     
  21. Always A Devil Registered User

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    I think some times its really good to see ones limits and qualities at the same time.
    Schneider to me was never a starter, not even in Vancouver. The battle he had going with Luongo looked really unhealthy from the outside at least to me at the time and he almost pushed himself to be the starting goalie.
    Im not blaming him, everyone has aspirations but... but he could have been an amazing back-up, because I believe he has those qualities more within him and the pressure it takes to be a starter along with the focus is just not there with him.
    Back in the days it was ok for a goalie to be a career back-up and when they were traded they often took the back up role in the new team as well.
    Not everyone can be a starter.
    Sometimes its great to be a great #2 as well. Much better than to be a bad #1.
     
  22. ChicksDigTheTrap There are only shortcuts to the middle

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    This is one of the strangest posts I have ever seen. An athlete has a short time frame to maximize the money he made. Cory is making $6 mil per year. I doubt he needs any career advice from anyone on this site.

    He declined at 30. Nothing surprising about that.

    Cory Schneider Stats | Hockey-Reference.com

    Conclusion: I’m going to use the Linear aging curve going forward in my Hockey Marcels, but no matter which one you use a few points are still clear:
    1. Goalies don’t improve as they get older
    2. By age 30, goalie decline starts to get REALLY noticable
    3. By mid-30s, even with the aging line, goalies rapidly start to fall apart.

    How well do goalies age? A look at a goalie aging curve.
     
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  23. Bleedred Permaban Schneidmingue from this team

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    Because there’s still this strange belief (and it’s not even the first post in the last week implying this) that Cory has mental problems and lacks ability because of it.

    When in reality, Cory lacks the physical ability to play in the NHL because injuries caused him to rapidly decline and completely fall apart in his early 30’s. It’s not because he lacks the focus or mental fortitude or whatever to be a starter.
     
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    Hehe, well... Sometimes you actually benefit from seeing your own limits, thats all Im saying. Yeah, I totally get the money aspect, its a big one. All I am saying is; He never seemed like a starting goalie and his reputation could have been better as a excellent back-up rather than what is now perceived as a failed starter.
    I am not trying to give him advice on anything, this is my opionion on making him a starter. Thats all.
     
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    He’s not a failed starter.

    He’s just goalie that broke down and fell apart at 30 years old.

    He wasn’t a starter before that because he had to share the nets with Luongo and then Brodeur for a year, and he still wound up starting most of his team’s games in the last year he was with Luongo in Vancouver and the year he was with us when Brodeur was still here.

    He does not have this reputation of being a failed starter. This is merely something that a very small percentage of people perceive him as.
     

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