Starting Six: Toronto Maple Leafs All-Time Lineup

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  1. LastWordArmy

    LastWordArmy Registered User

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    ACC1224 Steelers 7-2-1 @ Denver

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    I don't see the lineup, just a link.
     
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    You're never going to generate ad revenue with that attitude.
     
  4. Marshy

    Marshy Behind Enemy Lines

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    "Not only was Horton an intimidating player, but he was durable. He still holds the Leafs consecutive games record, at 486 regular season games. The total was the record for defencemen until broken in 2007 by Karlis Skrastins."



    Wait what?
     
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    ..when he was a member of the Colorado avalanche. What an incredible feat. RIP
     
  6. Rare Jewel

    Rare Jewel Patience

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    Lots of the respect to Armstrong, but Conacher should be the RW.
     
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    Nostalgia by boomers (like me) for the teams of their youth is warping the judgment of people who make these lists. The list makers may not remember the 60's directly but they probably heard lots of stories about them. I loved the Leafs of that era too. Check out my handle and avatar! But let's do a little researchand look for actual accomplishments.

    The best and most dominant decade for the Leafs was the 40's. The best center was Syl Apps, by a considerable margin. Charlie Conacher, of the 30's, was a repeat first all star, goals leader and scoring champion. George Armstrong was a superlative leader but only an average player.
     
  8. zeke

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    Nylander - Matthews - Marner

    Salming - Horton

    Bower
     
  9. LastWordArmy

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    The NHL record for most consecutive games by a defenceman was owned by Horton, until it was broken by Karlis Skrastins.


    Does that make it more clear?

    Horton had two records; a team record for consecutive games and a league record for consecutive games by a defenceman.
     
  10. Warden of the North

    Warden of the North The Matthews Show

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    You phrased is as "Leafs record". It should be "NHL record".
     
  11. GlitchMarner

    GlitchMarner Formerly 29GoalHoglund

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    Apps was better than Keon and Conacher was better than Armstrong.

    I'd go with:

    Mahovlich - Apps - Conacher

    Salming - Horton

    Bower
     
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    Edited to:

    Not only was Horton an intimidating player, but he was durable. He still holds the Leafs consecutive games record, at 486 regular season games. The total was also the NHL record for defencemen until broken in 2007 by Karlis Skrastins.
     
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    Clark Gilmour Vaive

    Salming Neidermayer...Sorry they traded that draft pick that became SN

    Cujo
     
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    GlitchMarner Formerly 29GoalHoglund

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    Mahovlich was definitely better than Clark and Conacher was waaayyy better than Rick Vaive.
     
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    I can't think of any better
     
  16. cupcrazyman

    cupcrazyman Chex Lemeneux

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    Turk Broda was better than Johnny Bower
    He played 2 more seasons as a Leaf but we had 30 more shutouts & 83 more wins & 5 Stanley Cups.
     
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    Lauro Charlie Conacher

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    Apps > Keon
    Conacher >>> Armstrong
    Broda > Bower
     
  18. Monsieur Gustave H

    Monsieur Gustave H Coming Home

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    Mahovlich-Kennedy-Conacher
    Salming-Horton
    Broda
     
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    as much as i respect bower i'm not sure how broda wouldn't be the goalie.

    nice to see some other posters mention him as well.

    conacher is another one that should be on the list.
     
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    Sittler hands down the best best centre, the focus on the 10 pt game and rotten Ballard ending seems to override the greatness of his career. No Cups but expansion and happy Hal go a long way to explaining that. Keon was a terrific versatile player but he was not a classic #1
     
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    Last #1 Centre to win a Cup - Keon
    Most Amazing single game at Centre - Sittler
    Most Amazing career start at Centre - Matthews
    Most Cups at Centre - Kennedy

    How do you choose? Head to head all of them during their prime, dare I say, I think Matthews may be the best.

    Salming /Horton - I'm in.

    Broda (Bower Back-up)

    (Felix in the minors)
     
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    I came here to post this exact line up...this may not be accurate at the moment but I feel like in the not too distant future this could be a very legit argument.
     
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    90% of players from the 80s and prior couldn't play in the NHL today. These lists are silly. Yeah, Keon and Apps...whatever. They'd ride the pine at best now.
     
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    well they're probably the best 3 rookies in leaf history, so they're off to a good start.
     
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    Sure, the speed and skill required from your average NHLer now is way higher but let's not forget that we're talking about players who did what they did with inferior equipment, inferior training practices, inferior facilities, more on ice harassment, etc. No doubt that these elite stars of the past in modern equipment and preparation practices would rise to the top. Some, like those who lived off long shots just inside the blueline wouldn't be notable players (I'm thinking about Vaive, Lafleur, McDonald) unless they adapted their games. Others with pure all around hockey abilities like Mahovlich, Keon, Salming would be just as good.
     

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