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  1. CantLoseWithMatthews

    CantLoseWithMatthews Registered User

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    Marcincin is like Ben Smith. Good in the AHL level, can't play in the NHL. he's not equipped for the speed and skill
     
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    PromisedLand <-----#34, #91, #43-----> "THE TRIFECTA"

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    Chara is also slow and has always been slow but his reach and positioning always helps defensive side of the game.

    Marincin can be something similar. I still have hope for him
     
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    You talking about a coach that is trying to show the G.M. who's boss....Your talking about a man with a Ego that is playing head games with players constantly...Lots of Pain coming
     
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    Chara is much bigger, smarter, and meaner than Marincin
     
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    Darcy Tucker You live by the sword you die by the sword.

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    What? Lay off the drugs.
     
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    Warden of the North The Matthews Show

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    Why are earth are people pining for Marincin?

    Stats be damned, hes the worst defenseman Ive watched for more then 30 games in the past twenty years.

    Hes AWFUL
     
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    PromisedLand <-----#34, #91, #43-----> "THE TRIFECTA"

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    Chara is 6’9 and Marincin is 6’5

    Marincin can still develop hopefully. It’s not like he is sucking in the AHL.

    As i said I still have hope for him
     
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    PromisedLand <-----#34, #91, #43-----> "THE TRIFECTA"

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    So was Gardiner but he came around. Not saying Marincin is gonna be elite; just saying I still have hope that he will be a serviceable NHL D-man
     
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    There's no way he's worse than guys like Lebda, Exelby, or a broken down Komisarek.

    His mistakes are horribly glaring and I would never play him in a single playoff game because he can't handle pressure, but he makes it hard for the other team to gain the zone and can PK well enough. He'd be playing decent minutes if he was on a bottom-feeder right now, and he'd probably have returned a 3rd or so at the deadline for them.
     
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    Warden of the North The Matthews Show

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    We traded a 4th for him and hes taken himself from an NHL player to the AHL. Why is he worth more now?
     
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    Marincin is a big guy, but Chara is the biggest. 4 inches is a pretty big difference. Marincin also doesn't use his size to intimidate the opposition like Chara does. Nor is he even close to as good with the puck as Chara
     
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    Comparing Chara and Marincin?

    What on earth is happening here?
     
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    Stockholm syndrome I guess. I really hope he leaves the franchise soon
     
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    Daisy Jane everything is gonna be okay!

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    Chara or Marincin? :laugh:
     
  15. CantLoseWithMatthews

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    Marincin. I love that Boston is going to have to lean on Chara in the playoffs against us since he can't handle the Leafs' speed. he becomes a human turnstile
     
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    Daisy Jane everything is gonna be okay!

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    yah. but he can still mug us.
     
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    PromisedLand <-----#34, #91, #43-----> "THE TRIFECTA"

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    Apparently you equate "hope someone becomes better" to "someone is already better"
     
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    sure but he's already 26 years old and has already been passed on our LHD depth chart by Dermott and Borgman this year. he's trending the wrong way and there's no NHL spot on the horizon for him here
     
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    PromisedLand <-----#34, #91, #43-----> "THE TRIFECTA"

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    We need a stay at home defenseman who can clear the crease and is good at shot suppression. If it isn't Marincin then we gotta find one so PMDs can do their thing

    Zaitsev, Gardiner, Rielly, Dermott are all decent PMDs but when it comes to clearing the crease or playing the body hard on the boards all (Dermott is excused for being a kid) are not strong enough.

    Soon Liljegren would be in NHL another great PMD but doesn't play body well (at least from what I have seen).

    Lindstrom was really good not because he was mean but because he was not only a PMD but was really good at playing body on the boards (and of course elite hockey IQ).

    Karlsson is Lindstrom without the defensive awareness and elite defensive IQ
     
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    kostska?
    lebda?
    berg?
    gill?
     
  21. CantLoseWithMatthews

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    Dermott and Borgman are better at clearing the crease and shot suppression. Marincin is as soft as it gets and is terrible at clearing the crease. he's also way too inept to get the puck out, which is crucial for us. Dermott is way stronger than you're giving him credit for
     
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    Hard to think of one worse.
    What's the connection to the Game thread? He hasn't been recalled I hope?
     
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    Do we even play anymore :shakehead
     
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    If you think Babcock's plan this season is "showing the GM whos boss", well thats actually kind of funny to think about lmao. If thats truly his plan coincidently it has his team in the playoffs. Maybe i should try that philosophy with my boss
     
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