OT: Star Wars: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread (SPOILERS!!!!)
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Imagine if there was a single mirrored ship that came in to save the day at the exact moment it needed to...
And we haven't even started talking about Luke yet.
I mean considering they couldn’t remotely hack snoke’s ship it makes sense that you couldn’t remotely pilot home one. And why doesn’t everyone just do the hyperspace thing? That’s a pretty easy answer. You’re not going to just throw out whole capital ships in a trade off, especially against a military force that has more capital ships than you.
There’s some real issues w the movie in terms of pacing and where they place comedy, but all in all most gripes we hear about are absolutely nit-picking.
There’s some real issues w the movie in terms of pacing and where they place comedy, but all in all most gripes we hear about are absolutely nit-picking.
BringBackHakstol
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Once again... Force = Mass x Acceleration. You don't need that much mass when you're going fast, so you don't need to sacrifice capital ships.
And you could just get a droid to pilot the ship. That's essentially the same as remotely piloting it.
BillDineen
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If you read articles on military lasers, they don't work well with clouds or fog and there are some mentioning drones having mirrors as a defense to laser weapons. Scifi movies don't have to be 100% realistic, it is just better if there is consistency within the story's universe. This was new to the Star Wars movies and extended books etc. and some fans didn't like it.
If the FO can track a ship thru hyperspace, it’s not too much to fathom that they could detect autopilot, which would blow their cover, let alone that they could potentially remotely hack it.
As far as the physics lesson goes, small fighter craft aren’t usually equipped w hyperdrives. Even if they were, an object that small could cause some devastation but not necessarily destroy a capital ship (thinking boring an x-wing sized hole in a star destroyer. Bad, but not enough to take it down)
As far as the physics lesson goes, small fighter craft aren’t usually equipped w hyperdrives. Even if they were, an object that small could cause some devastation but not necessarily destroy a capital ship (thinking boring an x-wing sized hole in a star destroyer. Bad, but not enough to take it down)
Tripod
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X-Wings all have hyperdrives, and you're ignoring the F=MA equation again. You're gonna just put an "x-wing sized hole" in the star destroyer the same way the meteor that killed the dinosaurs put a meteor sized hole in the earth.
Without nerds obsessing over Star Wars movies you would never have these (awful) sequels to fawn over.
Tripod
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So you want to have a movie that's 100% accurate in space yet are ok with sound in space?
Protest
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All I'm saying is that it's better to be entertained than to go down the rabbit hole. Yes, some things don't make sense scientifically, but does it really matter? You're point about the biggest issue being the casino sequence is 100% valid. Criticize the movie as a movie, not based on how it conforms with physics.
Like I said if you're going to do that you then need to do the same for every other similar movie, and eventually you wind up pushing for noiseless space battles and arguing that people can't handle the g-forces associated with near instantaneous acceleration to light speed.
I’m really not though. Combining real physics w the physics we saw in the movie, Home One sliced thru the ship. It didn’t explode in a huge fire ball, just got sliced. So it would be much more akin to a bullet shredding through the destroyer than a meteor impacting earth.
The best scene in the movie is also the scene without sound in space. Coincidence?
Tripod
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I am a Star Wars fan...and nerd I guess. I just don't get caught up into nitpicking every single detail of the movie. Do I have some issues, sure. But I can also suspend belief in things as well to enjoy a movie that is geared toward kids that don't go into the crazy depths of digging for mistakes.
Really an even better way to put it would be slingshot a bullet at someone and it’s gonna hit and leave a bruise a la the meteor impact. Now speed that meteor up to light speed would be akin to actually shooting the bullet. Not gonna leave a bruise, it’s gonna pierce straight through.
Tripod
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Nice strawman.
Do you think every space "battle" should be with no sounds since that would make it accurate?
It's not a strawman. It's a direct reference to the film we're discussing. The best scene from the movie has the exact qualities you describe.
And no, I don't think the movie would be improved by removing sound from space battles, but it would be improved by trying to be more congruent with previous entries...
I tried to enjoy it as well, but the movie was unable to draw me in to the point where I could overlook it's several flaws.
And we STILL haven't even begun talking about Luke!
Do you guys think that I went into this movie wanting to dislike it? Do you think it brings me joy see this franchise ruined? Because I certainly didn't. I wanted to like it DESPITE it's flaws, but the more I think about the movie the more I realize it's shit.
BringBackHakstol
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I get the argument about suspension of disbelief. But that doesn't mean the quality of the film can't be effected by taking too many liberties either. It's a balance.
I’ll get the ball rolling! I have come around after a couple viewings to really love what they did w Luke.
It's not my responsibility to "suspend my belief" as a favor to a poorly written movie. It's the movie's responsibility to suspend my belief, and it wasn't able to do that.
BrindamoursNose
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Does that galaxy's physics work the same as this galaxy's physics? You bring up the equation a lot, but are we even certain it applies?
