JJ gonna fix the mess that Rian Johnson left?
I hope so, but I'm not holding my breath for it. JJ implied anyone who didn't like The Last Jedi was a racist and sexist.
I hope so, but I'm not holding my breath for it. JJ implied anyone who didn't like The Last Jedi was a racist and sexist.
Clearly wrong there. He should've just called them out for what they really are: stupid fanfiction obsessed nerds.
JJ gonna fix the mess that Rian Johnson left?
Sounds like anyone who didn't like The Last Jedi can't win.
Sounds like anyone who didn't like The Last Jedi can't win.
Plenty of reasons to dislike The Last Jedi.
It "crapping over your childhood" isn't one of them. Most of the vocal critics of the movie on here want stuff like Luke talking on the walkers at the end and winning
Sounds like anyone who didn't like The Last Jedi can't win.
Well if a movie ruined someone's childhood then that person must have had a real lousy time growing up.
My point is people like JJ and Kathleen Kennedy seem to be lumping in the legitimate criticisms of The Last Jedi with the views of the fringe vocal minority on social media.
Where? In what way?Well if a movie ruined someone's childhood then that person must have had a real lousy time growing up.
My point is people like JJ and Kathleen Kennedy seem to be lumping in the legitimate criticisms of The Last Jedi with the views of the fringe vocal minority on social media.
No, it's just that it's been evident from the pre-hype that people built so much expectations on what they thought/speculated was going to happen and when none of it did, they were disappointed. That is the most ridiculous thing ever to be negative about a movie. Some people like to surprised by the events of a movie and not have it all laid out before on internet messageboards. As I've said numerous times before, it wasn't a perfect movie by any means, soem things could've been left out completely while others done differently, I liked it but didn't love it.
Clearly wrong there. He should've just called them out for what they really are: stupid fanfiction obsessed nerds.
No, it's just that it's been evident from the pre-hype that people built so much expectations on what they thought/speculated was going to happen and when none of it did, they were disappointed. That is the most ridiculous thing ever to be negative about a movie. Some people like to surprised by the events of a movie and not have it all laid out before on internet messageboards. As I've said numerous times before, it wasn't a perfect movie by any means, soem things could've been left out completely while others done differently, I liked it but didn't love it.
Again, where is this happening? I see this asserted but every time a tweet or quote is brought up it is specific to the "toxic minority" and not accusing all who are critical of the movie as being part of that group.A very large portion of the fan base is upset with the direction of the franchise, and when you have so many people upset, you're going to have a contingent that is so angry that they're "toxic." It's wrong, though, to flip the narrative around and suggest that the toxicity of the fan base is why people don't appreciate the films. That's trying to make the conversation about something other than the films. It's using the vocal, toxic minority as an excuse to write off the greater upset in the fan base and not have to discuss the real issues with the films and the direction of the franchise that have caused that upset. It's too bad for the rest of us that that loud minority is giving Abrams, Johnson and other defenders of the films the excuse to disregard all complaints. We should all be ignoring the toxic minority because they're a distraction, but some are choosing not to ignore it because it's a convenient distraction.
You just described 90% + of the people who go to see Star Wars movies.I've never been into Star Wars fan fiction. I've never touched the novels or TV series that most fans cite as part of the expanded universe and tend to not know what they're talking about when they reference things in them. I've never dressed up as a Star Wars character, worn Star Wars apparel or attended a convention, so I'm hardly a "nerd" about Star Wars, as well.
I had no expectations for what I thought or wanted to happen in TLJ. I didn't even spend any time thinking about it after TFA,
A very large portion of the fan base is upset with the direction of the franchise, and when you have so many people upset, you're going to have a contingent that is so angry that they're "toxic." It's wrong, though, to flip the narrative around and suggest that the toxicity of the fan base is why people don't appreciate the films. That's trying to make the conversation about something other than the films. It's using the vocal, toxic minority as an excuse to write off the greater upset in the fan base and not have to discuss the real issues with the films and the direction of the franchise that have caused that upset. It's too bad for the rest of us that that loud minority is giving Abrams, Johnson and other defenders of the films the excuse to disregard all complaints. We should all be ignoring the toxic minority because they're a distraction, but some are choosing not to ignore it because it's a convenient distraction.
Again, where is this happening? I see this asserted but every time a tweet or quote is brought up it is specific to the "toxic minority" and not accusing all who are critical of the movie as being part of that group.
I'm talking about the people actually in charge of the film.I just quoted two examples. There have been others. There's also the question of why people are are so adamant about discussing the toxic minority at all, instead of the larger, more reasonable set of complaints about the films. I think that some (but not all) treat the toxic minority as a convenient proxy for putting down all criticism. You can take all of the shots that you want at people who don't like the films; then, if called out, "explain" that you were referring only to the toxic minority. People do this a lot when it comes to politics, generalizing a party a particular way; then, if called out, walking it to back to "yeah, I meant only the extremists, but they're the most vocal, so I was justified, really... blah blah blah." Star Wars fandom is almost to the level of politics, though, so maybe it shouldn't be surprising.
I've never been into Star Wars fan fiction. I've never touched the novels or TV series that most fans cite as part of the expanded universe and tend to not know what they're talking about when they reference things in them. I've never dressed up as a Star Wars character, worn Star Wars apparel or attended a convention, so I'm hardly a "nerd" about Star Wars, as well. If people who didn't like TLJ are "stupid fanfiction obsessed nerds," what's your explanation for the fact that I didn't like it?
I had no expectations for what I thought or wanted to happen in TLJ. I didn't even spend any time thinking about it after TFA, much like how I haven't thought at all about what might happen in Episode 9. If un-met expectations are the reason why people didn't like TLJ, how do you explain that I was disappointed?
I didn't like the last jedi.
Or force awakens....or the PT.
It is just a mediocre franchise