Movies: Star Wars - Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

[cupcrazyman]

"You get to be a Skywalker. You get to be a Skywalker. Everybody gets to be a Skywalker!" - J.J. Abrams on the set of Episode IX

White Lightsabers For All !!!

 

[cupcrazyman]

Not sure if this was talked about yet.

 

[The Drop]

Kevin Smith talking about the trailer...typical great stuff from him.

17:40 to the end are an absolute must listen for anyone who is a fan of any franchise, not just Star Wars. Masterfully puts the fan rage into perspective and makes it all seem really stupid

Kevin Smith is a clown

 

[Jussi]

Does Rey finally bite it? That's all I care about.

Everyone dies.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Unless there is a Rey heel turn, this is a completely ruined franchise.

 

[Jussi]

Unless there is a Rey heel turn, this is a completely ruined franchise.

She also needs a manager. And a stable.

 

[MadDevil]

She also needs a manager. And a stable.

I have an image in my head now of the Emperor as Paul Heyman.

 

[Shockmaster]

White Lightsabers For All !!!

Nah, they all have to share Anakin's/Luke's/Rey's blue lightsaber or Kylo's shitty crossguard lighsaber as apparently no new lightsabers are capable of being made after Return of the Jedi.

 

[Pilky01]

Mark got yelled at on Twitter for this.

 

[Osprey]

Mark got yelled at on Twitter for this.

I love Mark Hamill. He's always been on the side of the fans and the characters while most others (Disney, Lucas, Kennedy, Abrams, Johnson, Ford, etc.) seem to care more about other things (themselves, money, social issues, etc.).

 

[missingmika]

I love Mark Hamill. He's always been on the side of the fans and the characters while most others (Disney, Lucas, Kennedy, Abrams, Johnson, Ford, etc.) seem to care more about other things (themselves, money, social issues, etc.).

You must have ignored a lot of Hamill. He's huge know social issues as he should be.

 

[Jussi]

 

[The don godfather]

Rise of Skywalker will undo all of rian debacle. Book it.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Mark got yelled at on Twitter for this.

Should’ve put Chewy in there too!

RIP Mayhew

 

[The Shadow]

Kevin Smith is a clown

Yes that was hard to listen to. Couldn’t take more than a few mins of that

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Mark got yelled at on Twitter for this.

Are people somehow reading this as some kind of criticism of the sequel trilogy?

Come on.

 

[Osprey]

Are people somehow reading this as some kind of criticism of the sequel trilogy?

Come on.

The original tweet, from the author of the picture:


So, yes, it's a criticism of the direction that the sequel trilogy went in, and Hamill re-posted it and added the hashtag "MissedOpportunities", suggesting that he shares some of that feeling.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

The original tweet, from the author of the picture:


So, yes, it's a criticism of the direction that the sequel trilogy went in, and Hamill re-posted it and added the hashtag "MissedOpportunities", suggesting that he shares some of that feeling.

I see him taking a picture of his coworkers and friends in a photoshopped pictire and putting another hashtag on it as a "that would have been cool for us to have done this". No I don't see it as an extension of that criticism.

Also that we didn't get all of them in a scene together is such a stupid thing to get hung up on.

 

[Osprey]

I see him taking a picture of his coworkers and friends in a photoshopped pictire and putting another hashtag on it as a "that would have been cool for us to have done this". No I don't see it as an extension of that criticism.

Well, you see what you want to see, no different than what you're criticizing others for. You could be right, but it's not like there isn't reason to read the opposite, considering the criticism inherent in the image and original tweet and the fact that Hamill has not been shy about publicly expressing dissatisfaction with certain aspects of TLJ.

Also that we didn't get all of them in a scene together is such a stupid thing to get hung up on.

I disagree that Hamill is being stupid.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

I don't think Mark Hamill is being stupid. I think he has a deep personal connection with all those people and him seeing it as a missed opportunity makes sense from his perspective.

You should know exactly who I am talking about when it comes to getting hung up on those characters not being in a scene together. And no it isn't any of the actors themselves.

 

[Osprey]

I don't think Mark Hamill is being stupid. I think he has a deep personal connection with all those people and him seeing it as a missed opportunity makes sense from his perspective.

You should know exactly who I am talking about when it comes to getting hung up on those characters not being in a scene together. And no it isn't any of the actors themselves.

I knew what you likely meant, but I wanted you to confirm it before I called it hypocritical. That's, frankly, what it is to be OK with Hamill wanting such a scene and critical of fans for wanting the same thing. Fans feel a deep connection to the characters, too. It makes sense for them to wish that they'd gotten to see them all together, as well. It's not fair to disparage that as getting "hung up" on it, especially when Hamill is excused from it and when the only reason that we're talking about it is that he brought it up.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

I knew what you likely meant, but I wanted you to confirm it before I called it hypocritical. That's, frankly, what it is to be OK with Hamill wanting such a scene and critical of fans for wanting the same thing. Fans feel a deep connection to the characters, too. It makes sense for them to wish that they'd gotten to see them all together, as well. It's not fair to disparage that as getting "hung up" on it, especially when Hamill is excused from it and when the only reason that we're talking about it is that he brought it up.

I will contend there is a major difference between an actor who actually knows all these people very well and a fan who has a connection to these people because they are featured in a piece of media they love. And that is where there is a huge distinction and why my issue lies with fans for feeling they were owed this reunion and it not being provided is a knock on the new trilogy for not accommodating them.

 

[Osprey]

I will contend there is a major difference between an actor who actually knows all these people very well and a fan who has a connection to these people because they are featured in a piece of media they love. And that is where there is a huge distinction and why my issue lies with fans for feeling they were owed this reunion and it not being provided is a knock on the new trilogy for not accommodating them.

There may be a difference between actors and fans having connections, but it's not nearly as huge as you're making it, IMO. In fact, it's often the case that fans have a stronger connection to the characters and actors than the actors, themselves. Just look at the original cast of Star Trek, which are loved by the fans more than they loved each other. As another example, I love Abbott and Costello, but those two didn't really get along.

Even if we accept the distinction, you haven't made any argument for why it matters and why it's not OK for fans to wish for the same thing as Hamill. You've only used terms like "hung up" and "owed" to paint their wanting it in an unflattering light. Even if that's applicable to some fans, it's certainly not to most, which is a distinction that you don't seem to be giving as much attention.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

I will contend there is a major difference between an actor who actually knows all these people very well and a fan who has a connection to these people because they are featured in a piece of media they love. And that is where there is a huge distinction and why my issue lies with fans for feeling they were owed this reunion and it not being provided is a knock on the new trilogy for not accommodating them.

There is a difference, but is it that quantifiable when thinking of fan reaction?

The original was a big part of our generation. Much more so than today because the original Star Wars was ground breaking in almost every way. There had never been anything like it.

Yet, look at your reactions to those critical of anything new Star Wars related. Fans can become very emotionally invested.

I know that I was. TLJ fixed that.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

If we are going to disagree about the difference between a personal connection to actual people and a fan's connection to fictional characters then this discussion is going to go around in circles.