St. Louis and San Jose Watch (1st round picks)

[Jim Bob]

This got awfully disappointing real fast.

San Jose is one of the elite teams in the NHL, and St. Louis has won 10 straight.

11 straight and counting...

 

[Jim Bob]

So trading one of them really wouldn't be a big deal

It has always come down to what do you get for them.

People killed Murray for trading away late round 1sts. I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a deal that makes sense for the Sabres to give up a 1st for.

 

[Yatzhee]

This got awfully disappointing real fast.

San Jose is one of the elite teams in the NHL, and St. Louis has won 10 straight.

Amazing what happens when you combine decent coaching with skill and roster chemistry, isn't it though?

SJ identified a need, and targeted Kane to fill it.

St. Louis identified a need and targeted ROR to fill it.

The fact that both of those organizations had already been regular season success is no small fact. Success breeds success, money goes where money is....etc....etc.....

The first thing here in Buffalo is to win. Find a way to do it, this has been a disaster.

 

[Reddawg]

So we wrecked our season and our reward is ending up with the next Stefan Matteau? Awesome!!!!!

Or two shots at the steal of the 2nd round, whomever that may be. There's one or two every year and with two picks we can make a safe one and a home run cut.

 

[Chainshot]

Or two shots at the steal of the 2nd round, whomever that may be. There's one or two every year and with two picks we can make a safe one and a home run cut.

Cold comfort.

 

[Aladyyn]

We should definitely trust the guy who drafted Davidsson and Samuelsson with his high 2nds to make a home run pick in that range.

 

[Snippit]

The hope is that STL doesn't crack the top 11 in the standings, so that we can stick Anaheim with the San Jose pick.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

The hope is that STL doesn't crack the top 11 in the standings, so that we can stick Anaheim with the San Jose pick.

Yeah.. Stl isn't cracking the top 10.

The only thing affecting the Montour trade conditions is Stl pick being 19 or better. We want that to happen so Anaheim gets the SJ pick and we keep the Stl pick

The Blues pick would currently be 20 so we need them to drop off in the standings just a bit

 

[Snippit]

Pray for TB to come back against St. Louis

 

[Snippit]

Tampa Bay ties it on the PP

4-4 with 6 minutes to go

edit: nope, offside challenged

 

[Ralonzo]

Back to 4-3, with ROR and Barbashev keys to the kill, no less.

Let us meditate on what it means to be a Sabres fan.

 

[BananaSquad]

Doesn’t Anaheim get the pick of their choosing ? Or is it lottery protected

 

[Kyndig]

Kucherov missed a wide open net. So Buffalo.

 

[Snippit]

Yeah if we lose 18th/19th overall and get 26-27th overall instead that would be pretty shit

 

[MagnumForce2]

This is Buffalo...we will end up with the San Jose pick.

 

[Snippit]

Doesn’t Anaheim get the pick of their choosing ? Or is it lottery protected

If the STL pick is between 20-31, they get their choice of the St. Louis or San Jose pick

 

[Snippit]

Honestly, what was the point of imposing this dumb condition on the Montour trade?

Guhle + SJ 1st is already more than fair.

 

[BananaSquad]

If the STL pick is between 20-31, they get their choice of the St. Louis or San Jose pick

OH okay. I love Montour so it’s worth it for me

 

[Chainshot]

Honestly, what was the point of imposing this dumb condition on the Montour trade?

Guhle + SJ 1st is already more than fair.

Botts is the mark.

 

[MagnumForce2]

Botts is the mark.

Hypothetically what do you think the cost would be to trade up from lets say pick 28 to pick 20-22?

 

[N.Y. Orangeman]

Hypothetically what do you think the cost would be to trade up from lets say pick 28 to pick 20-22?

It cost the Blues a 3rd to move up from 26 to 28 to draft Tage.

 

[Montag DP]

Botts is the mark.

Oh brother, this is getting ridiculous. Trades are a negotiation, you don't just get to name your terms. Anaheim's GM may not have taken just Guhle + SJ pick. I know we're all upset with where the team is now, but this isn't a video game and you can't just say the GM is an idiot because he gave away some value in a trade, at least not without just giving up on being objective.

I can already tell I will be completely ignoring this board during the offseason.

 

[Chainshot]

Oh brother, this is getting ridiculous. Trades are a negotiation, you don't just get to name your terms. Anaheim's GM may not have taken just Guhle + SJ pick. I know we're all upset with where the team is now, but this isn't a video game and you can't just say the GM is an idiot because he gave away some value in a trade, at least not without just giving up on being objective.

I can already tell I will be completely ignoring this board during the offseason.

Yes, trading is a negotiation, and so far the guy has one trade that he's negotiated that was a clear win for the team in 2 seasons. He hasn't done well with most of his trades, including a massive talent blunder and almost all of his roster building moves for two straight years. His teams are worse than the teams designed to actually be bad -- he's got a #1 center, 3 quality top-6 forwards in prime production years, and an amazing blueline talent so no, he does not get a pass for anything.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Yes, trading is a negotiation, and so far the guy has one trade that he's negotiated that was a clear win for the team in 2 seasons. He hasn't done well with most of his trades, including a massive talent blunder and almost all of his roster building moves for two straight years. His teams are worse than the teams designed to actually be bad -- he's got a #1 center, 3 quality top-6 forwards in prime production years, and an amazing blueline talent so no, he does not get a pass for anything.

If he lets skinner walk, was his one good trade even good?

 

[Montag DP]

Yes, trading is a negotiation, and so far the guy has one trade that he's negotiated that was a clear win for the team in 2 seasons. He hasn't done well with most of his trades, including a massive talent blunder and almost all of his roster building moves for two straight years. His teams are worse than the teams designed to actually be bad -- he's got a #1 center, 3 quality top-6 forwards in prime production years, and an amazing blueline talent so no, he does not get a pass for anything.

In other words, you don't like the ROR trade so you're going to be irrational about the rest of it. This team is no worse talent-wise than any of the Murray teams, it's just got the worst coach in the league. That will get fixed after the season is over.