St. Louis and San Jose Watch (1st round picks)

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  1. SundherDome

    SundherDome You will be missed Robin Lehner

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    Also sounds like he is trying to pump up the value of his 1st in what is being billed a weaker than normal draft.
     
  2. Sabresfansince1980

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    StL might be close to the playoffs simply by points, but they have three teams to climb over, with another two virtually right with them that they have to outperform over the next 32 games. I'm still confident that they fall in the sweet spot of 11-15.
     
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    If it played out this way, give me Krebs at 11, but I don’t think he makes it that far. I probably take Seider at 14, although Newhook is hard to pass up there. At 25, I probably take McMichael, but Heinola is interesting too. It’s funny, if I can get a good player for that Sjs pick, I probably do. Draft gets thin right around there.
     
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    is the answer jesus Registered User

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    I'd probably draft Caufield over Soderstrom, but I like your other picks.
     
  7. Der Jaeger

    Der Jaeger Casmus Eichelainenhart

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    Newhook
    Seider
    McMichael

    Really like Legare and Beecher.
     
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    I’m wondering if the Blues finish out of the top 10, but win the lottery. Would the pick go to the Sabres?
     
  9. jcbeze

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    No
     
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  10. GellMann

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    The Blues are 1 point back of a playoff spot with 3 games in hand, though Colorado can change that to just 1 game in hand.

    This is good news. I want that pick and I like that franchise
     
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    I don’t like them that much. They could finish with the 11th pick, thank you very much.
     
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    What the Blues are doing is exactly why I wanted that pick this year even when they looked dead in the water earlier this season. Teams can remedy bad goaltending pretty quickly - the Blues found it in a guy many thought would simply be an AHL journeyman. Get the pick in the low-teens this season and get the player developing. Now, we just need the other WC wild card contenders to stop faltering and keep the Blues out of the playoffs.
     
  13. Aladyyn

    Aladyyn counting stats are the devil

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    Not happening.
     
  14. 67Blues

    67Blues Got it for Bobby

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    It is starting to appear that you'll get our first this year. Binnington has really righted our goaltending issues in the past 12 games. Still wouldn't take this trade back though, ROR has been our MVP and I think you'll be happy drafting twice in a decent draft this year.
     
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    Sabres has a master plan and they are starting to look like genius for it
     
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    Both blues and sharks will be in the playoffs. So no need to talk about "two lotto picks". Only setting yourselves up for disappointment
     
  17. Doug Prishpreed

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    You forgot the quotes around “genius”
     
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    67Blues Got it for Bobby

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    I'm interested to see how you parlay your 3 picks which will probably all be in the high teens to low twenties (based on the current trajectories). Those types of players drafted at those positions are typically 2-3 seasons away from making an impact. Will Buffalo consider packaging some of them up for a player that fits into your core right now and continues your resurgence to take the next step next season?
     
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    It's currently a point of discussion here on the board. There's a train of thought that says "Hey, this might be the last time we get a chance at multiple 1st rounders in a good long while....and we'll need those ELCs once we become legit contenders". Then there's another that says "Hey, these might be valuable and we might have a real opportunity to add to the core".

    Who's to say what actually happens. I think most here would be OK trading one of the picks for someone signed relatively long term that fits into the core.
     
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  20. sabremike

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    I don't know about you guys but I'm not in the mood to completely waste the first SEVEN seasons of Jack's career. We need NHL quality players now, not 5 years from now.
     
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    I'd keep them and pick the best you can get at that spot. Keep in mind the interesting body of work in favor of trading down to accumulate more picks. I think going the opposite direction only makes sense if you have a specific guy you really like that you will lose out on otherwise. But as a generic practice, I would not be planning to consolidate multiple firsts to try to move up. If you need a player that is ready NOW, then you should trade futures (including those picks) for an established guy in his prime or near prime.
     
  22. Sabreality

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    I just think this is an extreme take that doesn't offer anything between NOW & 5 years from now. What about just 18 months from now? Using the 3 picks and having those picks develop doesnt preclude Botts from making other moves to bolster the roster whether in trades or UFA or the next wave coming from Rochester or Jr's or Europe. No Pommer, Sobotka, Sheary, Beaulieu, Bogo, Scandella, Hunwick. The only big raise RFA between now and then is likely Reinhart and Skinner UFA. There is still time to make moves and compete while still developing futures. We may not like it, but I can understand if thats the longview for Botts. Jack will be 24 with 6yrs left on his deal, Dahlin 20 with another year before RFA.

    If we can find that right young player with some term to get for one or two of the firsts, I'm all for it, but it takes two to tango anf the fit has to be there for both clubs.
     
  23. HogtownSabresfan

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    We are now in situation where St Louis could make playoffs, win a round and this picks becomes a 23.

    Sorry, but if all that happens, unless we get a miracle pick — this deal for O’Reilly is an absolute disaster.
     
  24. sabremike

    sabremike #TeamMagicGiraffe

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    And remember that the guy who made that deal is who we are all supposed to have complete confidence will totally nail those picks.
     
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  25. 67Blues

    67Blues Got it for Bobby

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    What you don't want to do is get into a situation like St. Louis had where we had a good core with no centers moving forward all around the age of 24-27, but then we had a gap to where the next core was 18-20 and not ready to step up. Thus, we did deals like Schenn and ROR where we gave away more picks just to fill in areas of need at the expense of keeping our youth filled with quality top 6/4 players. Luckily, we were able to trade players to get late picks back so they weren't completely left out of the first round, but those are players that are still a season or two away from making the leap.

    I don't know the status of your main core, but since you have a lot of picks coming in the next two years, you can afford to move one or two of them to fill in areas of need without sacrificing the future nor wasting years of your current core waiting for draft picks to fall into areas of need.
     

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