from what I can see this has nothing to do with potential. Dunn last year was better than both of those guys so I don’t see anything wrong with it.
They’re pretty darn high on Vince Dunn, aren’t they?
tldr - They’re pretty darn high
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Imagine not only having Meier not in the 25, but actually under Labanc Steve you crack me up
Exactly. People need to look at the 5v5 numbers. Dunn was sheltered much like most young defensemen but his rates were far better than Dahlin and Heiskanen, plus he was a regular on a Cup winner.
why is it a good thing that PLD had a far higher PDO?The HM’s were not supposed to be ranked. Sporting News did it without telling me. Meier is the superior 5v5 player but I had to include defensemen which is why he didn’t make the top 25. He would gave been 27 after Hischier.
Why was PLD there? XGFrel was 4.11 to 3.66. PDO was 1.024 to 0.994. HDGFrel was 8.86 to 2.77.
Meier has the better numbers elsewhere and was less sheltered. But he also spent more time with EK and Burns than PLD spent with Jones and Werenski, and that’s reflected in the point totals.
You’re a Sharks fan so I expect pushback. I gave the slightest edge to PLD for the reasons stated, also because his best season was draft-3 while Meier’s was draft-4.
Then you obviously haven’t seen Meier play. Just because he only has one year of great numbers doesn’t mean he is a worse player nowI wouldn't take Meier over anyone in that top 25 other than Dunn. And there are other guys 25-50 who I'd rather have as well.
The HM’s were not supposed to be ranked. Sporting News did it without telling me. Meier is the superior 5v5 player but I had to include defensemen which is why he didn’t make the top 25. He would gave been 27 after Hischier.
Why was PLD there? XGFrel was 4.11 to 3.66. PDO was 1.024 to 0.994. HDGFrel was 8.86 to 2.77.
Meier has the better numbers elsewhere and was less sheltered. But he also spent more time with EK and Burns than PLD spent with Jones and Werenski, and that’s reflected in the point totals.
You’re a Sharks fan so I expect pushback. I gave the slightest edge to PLD for the reasons stated, also because his best season was draft-3 while Meier’s was draft-4.
Is Nylander just an accidental omission? Or do you really think he’s not top 50?
Ah, ok.Incomplete season. 65+ games was cutoff for fowards unless it was an extra notable season which Nylander didn’t have
A lot of time went into this project, which relied heavily on analytics.
If you put Labanc over Meier, you clearly don’t know enough about the players to make any kind of list like this.
I'd like to see how the people who make these lists defend putting Marner at 5. Seems like it's just to stir controversy.
Hughes 30 when he showed nothing in the NHL yet. Holy ****.
Still kinda of nuts that Jones + MackInnon are still under 25.... I get both played right out of the draft but I just feel like they are older.
With all due respect, screw rates, gimme the guys playing top minutes and producing at a slower clip per 60.