Discussion in 'Detroit Red Wings' started by datsyukfan, Jan 21, 2019.
just put on waivers. Anyone have any interest in him?
Waive Frk and take a look on him. Offers a better package.
Would have been nice to trade Nielsen for him. Can we pick him up and waive Nielsen?
Trying to clear cap space for Nyquist.
I'd put a claim in. I think it's worth a shot. He's always had a ton of skill.
Not interested in Spooner unless it’s part of a trade to send Nyquist there
There is no reason to pick up Spooner.
Too much commitment with a $3.1M cap hit for next season
I'd be interested in Spooner but not at his full cap hit. If edmonton wants to move him, they're either eating salary or taking some back, if not packaging a pick with it as well. that is really his biggest appeal - that we could maybe siphon more assets off Edmonton just because we're willing to take him off their hands. The better the asset they package, the more salary the Wings would take on.
Yeah, I change my mind. I didn't think he made 3.1. Based on that, no thanks.
He makes 4.0 mil/yr.....NYR retained 900,000.
I wonder what the record is for one player being paid by the most number of teams at the same time?
Yeah... that caphit is really bad. They should retent max 50%.
I'm betting all 30 GM's, even if interested in Spooner, let him clear.
If Spooner and Rattie get claimed, the Oilers would no longer be over the ceiling and off the hook. I'm sure other GM's are hoping they can cash in by collecting some other assets from the Oilers to take some of their bad salary (like Spooner).
If Spooner clears, Chiarelli still needs to clear something like 500-600k less than what Spooners buried cap hit is, so he'd probably get desperate enough to shell out other assets to get rid of the contract if it's still on the books...
He's not getting claimed
**** NO. Stay away, far away. If the oilers want help out of their cap nightmare they can package picks and prospects.
As an Edmontonian I have negative interest in claiming spooner off waivers.
Vanek was paid by 3 teams (Wild buyout, Red Wings 50% retention, Florida) when the Wings traded him the last go around. I can't find any players paid by 4...
Thought there would be more interest in a 26 year old who had 41 points in 59 games last year with only a year left. I’m all for claiming him. You can’t put much stock in players failing in EDM tbh. Culture of failing
In fairness to the Oilers, Spooners game fell off before he got there.
While with the Rangers, 13 of his 16 points there last season came in his first 8 games. After that, 3G 2A and -12 in 28 games, before he was sent to Edmonton.
Before that he seemed to be a mixed bag to Bruins fans and was even a healthy scratch for a couple games in the 2017 playoffs.
If he was coming in at a "just got bought out" or "didn't get qualified" reclamation project price, then I'd be open to give him a shot. But not for $3.1M for the rest of this season and then next season.
From what I have seen he is soft, weak on the puck and only produces with a prime opportunity. He is the guy that is too good for the AHL but not good enough to be a top 6 forward on a contender but brings nothing to your bottom 6.
Hopefully this is the last step before Edmonton resorts to trading Spooner + sweetener as a cap dump. I have zero interest in wasting $3.1M on Spooner next year but would happily do so if a 2nd, 3rd, Marody or the like were sent along with him.
To DET: Spooner + 2019 2nd or 3rd or Marody
To EDM: McIlrath, Sateri, et al
Alternatively, as I've mentioned elsewhere, I'd happily take him in part of a larger trade as a means of negotiating up from two 2nds (or similar) to a first...
To DET: Spooner + 2019 1st
To EDM: Nyquist
To DET: Spooner + 2019 1st + 3rd
To EDM: Howard + Vanek
To DET: Spooner + 1st + Pool Party
To EDM: Howard + Nyquist
To DET: Spooner + 1st + Pool Party
To EDM: Green (25% ret) + Vanek
Free assets are nice. Our last waver pickup has been decent, why not try another?
De La Rose - Cap hit: $900k - Somewhat useful when not producing
Spooner - Cap hit:$3.1M - Useless when not producing
Should we consider this?
Ryan Spooner (23.4% retended) to make him move with a 2.375M caphit.
+ 1st round pick 2018
Gustav Nyquist, 50% retented (2.375M caphit)
This is build to work with Oilers cap. They can't take more caphit in than they throw out. But idea is to retent both contracts, so that next year caphit for Spooner could be less, and we could do an easier buy-out or something like waiving is he busts totally. I retended maximum of Nyquist and then fix it same figure to Spooner.
Put him on a line with AA and helm and I think he would do well. Also a good PP guy when in Boston. Ya it’s 3.1 mill for this and next year, but he’s got talent and we shouldn’t be close to the cap with our situation. If he plays well we have a good asset to sell next deadline, or extend for the future as he’s only 26. I take the risk on him
Spooner is trash. Why are we wanting him again?
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