Spezza needs a winger and fast

[VikingKarlsson]

Lol... Omg you guys make me laugh. Every time we bring in a top end winger to "help Spezza" he ends up not playing well with Spezza since Spezza is not that good. That's why he doesn't play for our country. Team Canada knows about putting a team together more than any average joe on this forum. Murray traded for bobby ryan to be a top end first line winger and he is. He plays on our top line with Turris and Mac. Face it. Spezza doesn't play a 200 foot game and therefore he and his line mates get scored on making him a minus player on most nights. Turris bobby and Mac are all +10 or better making them much better players in all situations.

Yes Spezza would need a winger to make him better... To get him more points... I agree. But at this point I am liking our other lines and for all I care Spezza can continue playing with 3rd line players since he lacks hustle and heart on most nights. Lazy captain not for long. Maybe this thread should be called "Spezza needs to go and fast"

Cheers

 

[Tampacuseforever]

What about Cory Conacher?

Seriously, the answer is :

Penner-Spezza-Michalek

But it's probably too late. No need for speedy wingers for Spezza, need for industrious wingers that can cycle and win battles along the boards, and finish/bang in rebounds.

PENNER ok seriously

 

[WhiteLight*]

Stone spezza is just too slow for me...

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Next year:

Hoffman - Spezza - Stone ?

Hoff with the speed. That could work actually. Potential for sweet chemistry.

Cost effective too. For the people suggesting Flash or Cammalleri, where's the dough coming from?

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I believe Cammalleri would be the absolute perfect linemate for Spezza.

A speedy winger who has a blistering shot and loves to be set up and knows where to go.

 

[WhiteLight*]

I believe Cammalleri would be the absolute perfect linemate for Spezza.

A speedy winger who has a blistering shot and loves to be set up and knows where to go.

cash, money, moola, dough, dollars, pounds, euros, francs, paso, chips, soldi, argent, dinero, bucks, bitcoins

where's it coming from?

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

cash, money, moola, dough, dollars, pounds, euros, francs, paso, chips, soldi, argent, dinero, bucks, bitcoins

where's it coming from?

Ayo cuz finna break da bank for ma boy Melnyk if he holla @ me.

 

[Karlssonlee]

I don't understand why Hoffman is so highly regarded by some on this forum.

Yes he has great speed but he has yet to show that he could even play a top 6 role.

His best case scenario is a peter Schaefer and I don't know how likely it will be for him to reach that

 

[Icelevel]

I don't understand why Hoffman is so highly regarded by some on this forum.

Yes he has great speed but he has yet to show that he could even play a top 6 role.

His best case scenario is a peter Schaefer and I don't know how likely it will be for him to reach that

i would say, hoff is done with ottawa now. some think he has a chance. i don't see it anymore. prince, pageau, stone, puempel have a much better shot imo. too bad but reality

 

[ATdaisuki]

I don't understand why Hoffman is so highly regarded by some on this forum.

Yes he has great speed but he has yet to show that he could even play a top 6 role.

His best case scenario is a peter Schaefer and I don't know how likely it will be for him to reach that

leads bingo in points, speedy winger with a wicked wrister that has shown the ability to play either the east-west skill game (what he does in bingo) or the north-south speed/creating off the rush game (what he's played in ottawa). shows commitment to the defensive side of the game. he can play the point on the power play. not too small. he looked like he might be staying with us last season before he re-injured himself.

last speedy winger that looked good in ottawa we gave up was was klinkhammer. hoffman has much, much better offensive tools when compared to him, but much weaker physical tools. we're currently playing spezza with neil, greening, conacher, and zibby, with people talking about playing him with stone. none of those guys are (established/have shown they could play as) top six forwards. might as well see if the hoff can become one. apparently hoffman used to be a center too (but hasn't really played there as a pro). versatility is nice to have, even if we already have a million centers.

if he tops out as a player that gets 35-50 points, i'll be happy. he's one of my favourite prospects.

 

[BurgoShark]

Stone is going to get called up in a week or two, the guy they said will be Spezza's ideal winger.

This.... Murray/PMac will look to solve the problem from within the organization first.

Do the Sens have anyone in the pipeline who plays like Alex Chiasson? Spezza and Stone playing with a 2 way net-crasher would be a sweet line.

 

[Iconoclast]

I would absolutely love Jakub Voracek on this team and he'd look amazing beside Spezza. He's also a threat on the power play and lord knows we've struggled with the man advantage in the past.

Let's pillage the wastebaskets of the east while we still can.

 

[BurgoShark]

I believe Cammalleri would be the absolute perfect linemate for Spezza.

A speedy winger who has a blistering shot and loves to be set up and knows where to go.

The problem with Cammy will be $$.

 

[The Waffler]

We should trade for that Bobby Ryan kid.

 

[DrunkUncleDenis]

We should trade for that Bobby Ryan kid.

I don't know. He has questionable heart and compete level, not to mention he isn't Swedish or a good ol Canadian Kid. Bad news written all over him.

 

[SensPerpetualRebuild]

MM9 Spezza Alfie
Mac Turris Ryan

What could have been.

Now, I know that there's more to it than just stats but:

Ryan 16 GP, 9G, 9A, 18 Pts, 1.13 ppg
Karlsson 16 GP, 6G, 11A, 17 Pts, 1.06 ppg
Spezza 15 GP, 8G, 8A, 16 Pts, 1.07 ppg
Turris 16 GP, 3G, 13A, 16 Pts, 1.00 ppg
Mac 15 GP, 2G, 9A, 11 Pts, 0.73 ppg
MM 16 GP, 3G, 7A, 10 Pts, 0.63 ppg

Alfie 17 GP, 3G, 10A, 13 Pts, 0.76 ppg

It is a small sample size but I think we're doing fine without the old captain. Offensively, that is. If only MM could re-find his game. His struggles must be really frustrating for him given that its a contract year.

I agree that we do need to find wingers for Spezza. I'd like to try:

6-19-16
9-7-93

for a game or two to see if it works. If it cools off Turris, then I'd put him back with 6 and 16. But if got both lines going, that would be great.

 

[Tampacuseforever]

I'm starting to think if you put anyone with Turris they would do well, and whoever you put with Spezza, not so much !!! Maybe Spezza is hurting ?

 

[SensPerpetualRebuild]

I'm starting to think if you put anyone with Turris they would do well, and whoever you put with Spezza, not so much !!! Maybe Spezza is hurting ?

Agreed

 

[HockeySens]

Over ppg pace is not enough for spezza? Spezza is already scoring points while playing with all different kinds of sens player, the only reason nobody has clicked with spezza is because spezza cannot play defense right now and he turns the puck over way too many times which makes his line play more defense than it would like and can handle, if Spezza's line played less in the defensive zone and more in the offensive zone then Spezza and whoever is with him would have higher points than now. Look at Turris and Mac, those guys have been great no matter who they play with, that is because they are very responsible defensively in their zone and in the neutral zone, they rarely get pinned on the D-zone than spezza, they always get the puck deep in the offensive zone as a result they score more and play better.
Sens need a top 4 PMD, besides Turris and Mac's line(who usually help the dman get out of the zone) thee sens have been terrible coming out of their own zone.

 

[tony d]

We need a defenseman even more. Spezza got 16 pts. in 15 games so he's still producing with or without a good winger.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Lol... Omg you guys make me laugh. Every time we bring in a top end winger to "help Spezza" he ends up not playing well with Spezza since Spezza is not that good. That's why he doesn't play for our country. Team Canada knows about putting a team together more than any average joe on this forum. Murray traded for bobby ryan to be a top end first line winger and he is. He plays on our top line with Turris and Mac. Face it. Spezza doesn't play a 200 foot game and therefore he and his line mates get scored on making him a minus player on most nights. Turris bobby and Mac are all +10 or better making them much better players in all situations.

Yes Spezza would need a winger to make him better... To get him more points... I agree. But at this point I am liking our other lines and for all I care Spezza can continue playing with 3rd line players since he lacks hustle and heart on most nights. Lazy captain not for long. Maybe this thread should be called "Spezza needs to go and fast"

Cheers

I got a good laugh out of this.

 

[cpcftw]

Lol... Omg you guys make me laugh. Every time we bring in a top end winger to "help Spezza" he ends up not playing well with Spezza since Spezza is not that good. That's why he doesn't play for our country. Team Canada knows about putting a team together more than any average joe on this forum. Murray traded for bobby ryan to be a top end first line winger and he is. He plays on our top line with Turris and Mac. Face it. Spezza doesn't play a 200 foot game and therefore he and his line mates get scored on making him a minus player on most nights. Turris bobby and Mac are all +10 or better making them much better players in all situations.

Yes Spezza would need a winger to make him better... To get him more points... I agree. But at this point I am liking our other lines and for all I care Spezza can continue playing with 3rd line players since he lacks hustle and heart on most nights. Lazy captain not for long. Maybe this thread should be called "Spezza needs to go and fast"

Cheers

This.

Can't believe how much faith most Sens fans have in Spezza... Yes lets break up one of the best lines in the league so that Spezza can have some wingers to clean up his mistakes for him.

Guys he's a UFA at the end of next season, it's time to admit he is a 7M one-dimensional PP specialist (and not even that good on the PP).

 

[Stylizer1]

Over ppg pace is not enough for spezza? Spezza is already scoring points while playing with all different kinds of sens player, the only reason nobody has clicked with spezza is because spezza cannot play defense right now and he turns the puck over way too many times which makes his line play more defense than it would like and can handle, if Spezza's line played less in the defensive zone and more in the offensive zone then Spezza and whoever is with him would have higher points than now. Look at Turris and Mac, those guys have been great no matter who they play with, that is because they are very responsible defensively in their zone and in the neutral zone, they rarely get pinned on the D-zone than spezza, they always get the puck deep in the offensive zone as a result they score more and play better.
Sens need a top 4 PMD, besides Turris and Mac's line(who usually help the dman get out of the zone) thee sens have been terrible coming out of their own zone.

I don't think Spezza has reached his true potential because of injuries. Being a ppg is great and the standard in which top tier talent is measured at. He should be at the 90 - 100 point mark every season and has shown, when healthy, he can. We pretty much have an elite second line.

Spezza still needs to step up a level or two and so does Michalek but the right side is all but dead. Once Pageau gets over the dear in the head lights mode in the NHL, he could maybe bring some of that skill set to at least do a decent job up there. In reality we need size up there but thus far nothing on the team has worked or the available players in the AHL are too inexperienced.

Trading for a stop gap is quick fix solution. Cammy would be sick and if we could get Calgary to retain a chunk of that contract I could see him being that 50 - 60 point player who will fill in nicely.

 

[harvey]

Spezza's line has always had a problem getting out of our own end zone.
I am at a loss to know why.
Positioning? Defence pairing with him?
Maybe we need to do the russian experiment and put together a 5 man unit
as the Spezza "line" ?

 

[YNWA14]

Lol... Omg you guys make me laugh. Every time we bring in a top end winger to "help Spezza" he ends up not playing well with Spezza since Spezza is not that good. That's why he doesn't play for our country. Team Canada knows about putting a team together more than any average joe on this forum. Murray traded for bobby ryan to be a top end first line winger and he is. He plays on our top line with Turris and Mac. Face it. Spezza doesn't play a 200 foot game and therefore he and his line mates get scored on making him a minus player on most nights. Turris bobby and Mac are all +10 or better making them much better players in all situations.

Yes Spezza would need a winger to make him better... To get him more points... I agree. But at this point I am liking our other lines and for all I care Spezza can continue playing with 3rd line players since he lacks hustle and heart on most nights. Lazy captain not for long. Maybe this thread should be called "Spezza needs to go and fast"

Cheers

This.

Can't believe how much faith most Sens fans have in Spezza... Yes lets break up one of the best lines in the league so that Spezza can have some wingers to clean up his mistakes for him.

Guys he's a UFA at the end of next season, it's time to admit he is a 7M one-dimensional PP specialist (and not even that good on the PP).

Hahahaha...oh man you guys crack me up, however that you're both serious makes me seriously question some things in life.

Gryba and Cowen have a higher +/- than Karlsson and therefore are much better in all situations. It's gold Jerry!

 

[Tampacuseforever]

Hahahaha...oh man you guys crack me up, however that you're both serious makes me seriously question some things in life.

Gryba and Cowen have a higher +/- than Karlsson and therefore are much better in all situations. It's gold Jerry!

Don't forget Corsi