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I will give a scouting report on alex guptill tomorrow for you folks.
You'll love the kid. But is still prob a year or 2 away.
You'll love the kid. But is still prob a year or 2 away.
Not a great return but not unexpected considering the circumstances.
To be brutally honest, Spezza at this time is pretty much a PP specialist. Since that MVP like season a few years back, he's been absolutely terrible in the playoffs. He really hasn't had a good post season since the sens made the finals. Obviously, with Sequin and Benn he wont have the pressure to carry the Stars and he can certainly turn it around with a fresh start. He'll still put up the points, but a lot of that will depend on how many PP minutes he'll be able to get. He is great on face offs though, but defensively quite weak so more of a faceoff guy in the O-zone. Injuries are in issue as well.
All this adds up to a mediocre return. The guy has top end talent no doubt so it will interesting to see how he adjusts to a new team and conference.
Regardless of the return, the sens needed to move on. I think that the most sens fans can hope for is a Boston/Thornton situation, where despite getting an underwhelming return for their #1C, they became a force a few years later.
bye Jason
Chiasson okay...but what i have to thik off Guptill and Paul?
Chiasson > Berglund. Had more points this season in his rookie year that was partially derailed from illness.
Last thing they said is how the "too early success" of making the playoffs 2 years in a row and the round win against the Habs as a rebuilding team creates a perception that the step back last season was a lot bigger than it was in reality.
We really should have shipped out Spezza in 2011. That was a mistake.
Exactly but we were retooling right?We really should have shipped out Spezza in 2011. That was a mistake.
"I never heard of him, he must suck."
The fact that chaisson is 7th on the list and rocketed past all prospects on the stars shows how reliable "lists" are when it comes to prospects.
If you don't know the prospect, you can't fairly judge the deal, it's a very simple concept. Sens eye for young talent can't be denied, everyone take a breath.
Seriously, a #1 center returned a potential 2nd liner and two average prospects. Think about that.
I've been behind Murray this whole time and want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but with the return we got, I can admit to being wrong and that he mishandled this whole situation badly. I figured we'd be getting one really good top-6 centerpiece but Chiasson is not it and I haven't heard anything about the prospects that sound like something we should be happy about. Add to this the fact that we don't seem to be aiming to improve our mediocre defense squad and things are looking pretty bleak for next season.
I am not a fan of Murray, but he was in a tough spot
spezza wanted a highly competitive team with a fan base who don't care, plus he
Can't be traded to a Canadian market, and hemsky has to sign. His balls were in the vice at that point.
“Once Bryan went public, I knew it was probably done for me there,” he said. (Spezza also went out of his way to point out that he still has a terrific relationship with Murray and holds the Senators general manager in the highest regard).
Spezza isn't sure how the crowd at Canadian Tire Centre would react to his appearance when he makes his return to Ottawa on January 29, 2015 in a Dallas Stars jersey, but he does want Senators fans to know that he does not hold a grudge against them – even though he was often seen as a lightning rod for criticism by the fan base.
“My time in Ottawa was fond and I know a lot of people are upset," Spezza said. "I would have loved to have the storybook career, where you spend your whole life in one city and play for one team, but that's part of the hard decision we had to make. This didn't just happen overnight and I woke up one morning and said ‘I want to leave'. There was a lot of thought put into this.”
Except for having a player made of glass as a gigantic distraction, eating up minutes that can be given to young players with as much potential. Ask Edmonton how much they want Hemsky back. Not to mention we have no idea how his contract is loaded. He might be signed for 6m this year for all we know.
GG.
Usually if you never heard of them it's a sign they are not as good as the player they were traded for.
I hope people are at least consistent here:
- if you didn't like Spezza to begin with (i.e., if you thought the team was playing better without him), you should be reasonably happy with the return;
- if you thought Spezza was a top 10 C in the NHL, you must be pretty upset right now.
Guptill could be OK. Plays college hockey now.
The Mendes piece that just went up on TSN says it all.
May got it right. Spezza asked for a trade because the team was not committed to winning, and he was not going to re-sign. I actually respect the fact that he gave BM the chance to get a return for him rather than just playing out his contract and bolting.
He left NCAA to sign with Dallas in March.
He's a pro now.
Seriously, a #1 center returned a potential 2nd liner and two average prospects. Think about that.
I've been behind Murray this whole time and want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but with the return we got, I can admit to being wrong and that he mishandled this whole situation badly. I figured we'd be getting one really good top-6 centerpiece but Chiasson is not it and I haven't heard anything about the prospects that sound like something we should be happy about. Add to this the fact that we don't seem to be aiming to improve our mediocre defense squad and things are looking pretty bleak for next season.
Maybe HSF will realize that our owner could be the worst in all of sports right now.
We have lost Alfie and Spezza obviously 2 years in a row because of $$ and i am guessing Ryan is next.
Those types of players don't wanna lock themselves into long-term deals if Melnyk isn't committed and how can anyone blame them.
We really do have a serious problem going on right now.