TO is all about analytics and skill now, moving away from bigger players that are average at hockey. Granlund was a 2nd round pick, hes shown that he has top 6 skill and that he can play in the NHL.
Granlund is an analytics disaster at the NHL level so far, despite being small and skilled.
HUGE NO to any player on the Leafs not named Kadri, Bracco, Marner, or Reilly though.
And sadly the four guys you named are likely the last guys the Leafs would think of moving (along with Nylander).
I don't know why people have any interest in Kadri. I haven't seen anything of value out of him. Upside's there, but so's the attitude/off-ice issues that come with it.
What makes you believe he will get a better return than Hamilton? It is a buyers market right now because the top end teams have no cap space to acquire these players.This is another 'I want your really good player but won't give you any of mine' situation. If we were to get JVR they would be asking for Klimchuk or Poirer + a 1st back. Which I'm not willing to give up. I would rather stick with what we got and see how they develop. I think both Klimchuk and Poirer will be top 6 players for us in the future. I think if we are going to go after any more top 6 wingers we should try and get a RHS. We are very very low on right shots in the forward group right now. We only have Jooris and Jones and maybe Shore.
People want to give up not only a 1st round pick (already too much) but also a future potential 2nd liner for a one-dimensional offensive winger 2nd liner at best?
People want to give up not only a 1st round pick (already too much) but also a future potential 2nd liner for a one-dimensional offensive winger 2nd liner at best? I thought this was a buyer market. I guess not.
Not to mention it's entirely possible the Flames significantly overachieved last year.
What makes you believe he will get a better return than Hamilton? It is a buyers market right now because the top end teams have no cap space to acquire these players.
The did overachieve. There is no probably, doesn't mean they won't improve. And to Acquire a player who put up 50-60 points making 4ish million would probably cost a 1st +. Granlund is middle 6 player, but iI don't think he can play bottom 6.
If Hamilton is your #1 D you're not a true contender
I don't see him ever becoming a true #1.
If Boston had drafted Connor or Barzal the trade would have been okay
Edler was not our true #1? We had Ehrhoff, and Salo that year and a Bieksa that played extremely well in the playoffs. It was a good defensive unit like that of Carolina and Pittsburgh
Hamilton wouldn't even be a #1 on this Canucks team. Most valuable piece, sure due to age and potential but I don't see it. And he'll be behind Giordano in Calgary. In line with Kris Russel and TJ Brodie
The did overachieve. There is no probably, doesn't mean they won't improve. And to Acquire a player who put up 50-60 points making 4ish million would probably cost a 1st +. Granlund is middle 6 player, but iI don't think he can play bottom 6.
Pretty unlikely we come above teams like dallas, LA, Nashville or Chicago in the playoff, eh? Then maybe we should wait until 2017-18 where Smid, Engelland, Raymond, Bollig, Jones, Russell, Wideman and their 22.66M$ cap are gone and they get replaced by our prospects and some other players from the outside instead of overpaying with our farm and picks. We're not in desperation mode.I don't think we will go the Avs route here, they lost Stastny, we added Frolik and Hamilton. The west is always tough and with Dallas improving and LA tough as usual it will be a fight but I think were pretty good in terms of making the playoffs and assets we can spend. Even if JVR was only a second line LWer it would still be a solid scoring addition to our team.
I thought the "trade Backlund(+)" for JVR crowd from FN were nuts, at least they turned out to be a small minority. Here it's "mortgage the future" for JVR en masse.Thank you for having the same reaction I did.
Pretty unlikely we come above teams like dallas, LA, Nashville or Chicago in the playoff, eh? Then maybe we should wait until 2017-18 where Smid, Engelland, Raymond, Bollig, Jones, Russell, Wideman and their 22.66M$ cap are gone and they get replaced by our prospects and some other players from the outside instead of overpaying with our farm and picks. We're not in desperation mode.