Spectacular Strachan!
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Digger12
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Bicycle Repairman said:
Seriously...why do you bother?
Is it not a bit naive to think that Bettman could pull the wool over all of the owner's eyes and lead them blindly down the path to ruin? Bettman is a representative of the owners-he carries out their wishes and takes the flak for it. He would not be able to do something that the majority of the owners did not want him to do.
That being the case, would the majoirity of the owners blindly support this plan if there really was all that profit to be made? The fact they are willing to go through this shows the sorry economic state the league currently is in.
It really doesn't matter anyways. The owners can hold out a LOT longer than the players can. I hope they enjoy beiong in exile in Europe next year when replacement hockey starts with players who actually appreciate the good fortune they have to be playing hockey for a living.
That being the case, would the majoirity of the owners blindly support this plan if there really was all that profit to be made? The fact they are willing to go through this shows the sorry economic state the league currently is in.
It really doesn't matter anyways. The owners can hold out a LOT longer than the players can. I hope they enjoy beiong in exile in Europe next year when replacement hockey starts with players who actually appreciate the good fortune they have to be playing hockey for a living.
Bicycle Repairman said:
What are you Bob Goodenow's lap dog? While guys have pictures of supermodels and swimsuit models on our walls, you have Bob in a thong...why i ask, WHY!?
(its a joke)
struckmatch
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^ I've given up on BR. Its embarrassing enough that he represents this message board as a moderator. 
If owners aren't willing to share revenue to make "their" league stronger, why should the players agree to a salary cap ? So teams like Carolina and Phoenix can be somewhat profitable, while the Rangers, Leafs, Flyers, Stars, and Red Wings would be earning $ 50 million in annual profits.
Let's call the lockout for what it is. An attempt by the billionaire owners/corporations to increase the value of their franchises. http://ordinaryleastsquare.typepad.com/dubi/2004/01/old_boss_new_bo.html
It's got nothing to do with making the NHL, as a whole,financially stronger. If the NHL wants an "economic partnership" with the NHLPA, it first needs an "economic partnership" amongst the owners.
The players already offered rollbacks in current contracts (24%), entry level contracts, and arbitration.
The NHL's argument that they need cost certainty is true. however, it's up to them to deal with the discrepanies in revenue generating ability among their teams.
The players have done their part, now it's time for the owners to do their part.
The fact the owners can't trust themselves isn't the players responsibility.
Let's call the lockout for what it is. An attempt by the billionaire owners/corporations to increase the value of their franchises. http://ordinaryleastsquare.typepad.com/dubi/2004/01/old_boss_new_bo.html
It's got nothing to do with making the NHL, as a whole,financially stronger. If the NHL wants an "economic partnership" with the NHLPA, it first needs an "economic partnership" amongst the owners.
The players already offered rollbacks in current contracts (24%), entry level contracts, and arbitration.
The NHL's argument that they need cost certainty is true. however, it's up to them to deal with the discrepanies in revenue generating ability among their teams.
The players have done their part, now it's time for the owners to do their part.
The fact the owners can't trust themselves isn't the players responsibility.
What kind of fantasy world does Strachan live in? And I'm not talking about his stance, I have no problem with him or anybody choosing a side in this affair, but this quote boggles my mind:
I don't even know where to begin...
Al Strachan said:
I don't even know where to begin...
Loki
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Who made this guy a moderator.Bicycle Repairman said:
It is very dissapointing because I am unable to add him to my ignore list.
Please step down!
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Loki said:
why ? because he doesnt have the "popular" opinion ?
sheesh, didnt know you had to be popular to be on this board.
dr
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Digger12 said:
Its a MESSAGE BOARD. If you dont want to see any PRO-PLAYER stuff I suggest you quit visiting this section of the board.
FLYLine27*
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Bicycle Repairman said:
Doesn't really address any of the reasons the league gave for rejecting the NHLPA's proposal, though. Also, he falls into the trap that many people do of personalizing this and demonizing either Goodenow or Bettman (or both).
Symptomatic of the poor quality of so much public discourse these days. Forgo meaningful discussion and debate for sarcasm and shouting. This article wasn't intended to change anyone's mind or present new opinions; it's just a rallying cry for people who already support that point of view.
Nothing wrong with an article like that on it's own. But when that's all we get out of the media on all sides of the issue, well it's just too bad.
Steve L*
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I find it highly amusing that someone uses both Brooks and Strachan to try and back up his less than knowledgable views.
Anyone with an ounce of logic would know that they are wrong if their views are the same as two of the 3 blind mice.
I do agree with the other person that it refelcts badly of HF having him as a mod. He posts a new thread just to try and annoy people which is typical troll behaviour. He would be only 1 of 2 or 3 people on my ignore list if I could do that.
Anyone with an ounce of logic would know that they are wrong if their views are the same as two of the 3 blind mice.
I do agree with the other person that it refelcts badly of HF having him as a mod. He posts a new thread just to try and annoy people which is typical troll behaviour. He would be only 1 of 2 or 3 people on my ignore list if I could do that.
Steve L*
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Im not too sure, its slightly worrying that someone fawns over a middle aged man as much as he does.I.am.ca said:
Digger12
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go kim johnsson said:
I was referring to the fact that Al seems to think the world is pro-player and the owners seem to be a small isolated group with no backers, when from everything I've seen (on these boards and elsewhere) it's the complete opposite.
windowlicker
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Loki said:
Have you ever worked in an enviroment where certain individuals retain their positions soley on the fact their "mom" or "aunt" knows "so & so" at the company?
Its called "having connections."
Bicycle Repairman said:
I read this in one of the other sub-forums. Is it true that you're really Bruce Dowbiggen's brother? It would explain your hero worship of the insane.
Buffaloed
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Loki said:
He's not a moderator on THIS board. Moderators are considered just like regular posters on boards they don't moderate. If you don't like his opinions, debate the substance of the opinion. If you want to debate the substance of the poster (any poster), you're going to have problems.
I pointed it out in the "Accepting NHL's offer" thread. I know I'm not the only person to have noticed it, though.bling said:I read on another thread in this forum, I can't remember which one it was, that it is the pro-NHLPA posters who are getting personal and attacking the pro-Owners personally rather than on the issues.
This thread certainly belies that fact.
I can't help but notice that in the war between the two sides, the insults are all coming from the same direction. This holds true for both the sides themselves and the groups of fans that support their respective sides.scaredsensfan said:How stupid are the masses anyway? Surpassing even my lowest expectations (in the wrong direction).
Steve L*
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Thats because they know they are wrong, they know they are backing the losing side and have nothing left to do apart from insult the people who favour the owners.bling said:I read on another thread in this forum, I can't remember which one it was, that it is the pro-NHLPA posters who are getting personal and attacking the pro-Owners personally rather than on the issues.
The players are doing it, the NHLPA are doing it, the pro NHLPA writers are doing it and finally the pro NHLPA poster are doing it.
Steve L*
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Well then, can you make it so we can add him to the ignore list on any board except the one he moderates on? I, for one, would rather skip his mindless drivel.Buffaloed said:
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