Someone pointed this out - BS!

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  1. modestfwd

    modestfwd Registered User

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    I was on a different message board earlier, and I saw something. Canada plays EVERY game at home! Not only in the preliminary round, but in the ONE Championship game!!

    How much B.S. is that?!?! If anything, the U.S. should get this home ice advantage because they only WON the last tourny!

    How is this fair to any of the other countries?! Someone please explain
     
  2. Papa Smurf

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    Well for one thing, Canada earned it's spot for a home quarter final game, I believe the semi final is played in Minnesota, and c'mon, Toronto and hockey go together like cake and ice cream. The championship game HAS to be played there. It wouldnt be the same if it was in Finland, Sweden or MInnesota IMO.

    Saying the WC should NOT be held mostly in Canada is like saying the Little League World Series shouldn't be played in the US.

    Besides, what makes you think Canada will be the home team for the championship game? (Don;t get me wrong though, it will most likely happen. :) )
     
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    It was my understanding that if The US ended up as a higher seed than Canada, Canada would have to play the US at the X in St. Paul. Other than that all Team Canada games would be in Canada.

    I think it's because the World Cup is basically the Canada cup with a new name. It's their tourney.
     
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    Though hopefully if there is another World Cup in four (or eight) years time the championship rounds will be held in Europe... that's if they want any credibility for the tourney.
     
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    You are right. But it only applies for the Quarter finals. Lets say US finishes 2nd and Canada finishes 3rd (won't happen now, but had it) Canada would have had to go play the US in St Paul.
     
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    But it is still possible that the US, if it wins its next two games would be the 2nd seed, therefore, playing the Qtr at the X..right??? At least thats my understanding. Also, the worst Canada can do now is 2nd seed, Russia would have to win all there games from here on out.

    And also the only way the US wont play at the X now in the qtr is if the end up playing Canada.. All so confusing :dunno: .
     
  7. Lobstertainment

    Lobstertainment Oh no, my brains.

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    anyone else notice that 100% of Team Canada is Canadian!

    Those Cheaters!
     
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    No they have a token Brazilian.... :p:
     
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    Lobstertainment Oh no, my brains.

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    Ahhh true...and Heatley is German...but they all have Canadian Citizenship!

    Those Canadians bending the rules again!
     
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    This is confusing but let me try to help out, I think.

    The quarter finals go like this.
    1 vs 4
    2 vs 3

    Canada has locked up 1 or 2. So they will play in Canada for the Qtrs. As long as the US comes in 2nd or doesn't align them selves to play Canada. They will play in St Paul.

    Here's a confusing example. Say the US comes in 4th and Russia comes in 1st. The game would still take place in St Paul with Russia the home team.

    Does this help? :dunno:
     
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    How fair is it that every world championship ever played has been played in Europe and on big ice, or that every Olympics has been on big ice? That's not very fair to North Americans, but them's the rules for those tournaments and these are the rules for this one. Besides, home ice is overrated. When was the last time you saw the home team win at the worlds? The fact is playing at home often backfires, especially when you're facing the kind of pressure Canada faces every time they skate in front of their fans. I'm sure you'll see the World Cup rotate around more in the future, but right now the only place in the world this tournament would sell out is in Canada.
     
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    With NHLer's in the Olympics, I'd bet this will be the last World Cup for a while, maybe ever.
     
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    But NHL'ers at future olympics is a big question mark at best
     
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    That would be too bad.
     
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    I don't find much to wet the panties about.

    This is Canada's tournament, designed to their advantages. Nothing new there.
     
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    It's called international hockey ;)

    Heck, I don't even get coverage and people start to get angry about Canada getting home ice one more game than the US... :dunno:

    I might also point out that the World Cup is basically the succesor to the Canada Cup :teach:
     
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    I wouldn't have a problem if they moved the tourney around a bit ala the Soccer World Cup, the only problem is if you take games aways from the North American time zone, it starts to lose a lot of money from TV.

    Plus, they make more money in North America at the games from ticket prices etc.

    I think they get worried about games not getting enough attendance. That's why Toronto, Montreal and Minnesota seem to being used, because they are all such strong hockey markets. A nice tip of the hat to Minnesota in this regard.
     
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    The reason why Canada or USA doesn´t stage the World Championships is simply because they have not applied to stage it before. Canada will try to get the 2008 championships though, read more about it here.

    The last time a home team won the World Championships was back in 1986, SovietUnion of course.
     
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    worst whining ever...

    both sides... :shakehead
     
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    Where did I complain? I just said it's nothing to get excited about.
     
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    This tournament is bull$hit.

    Canada organized it simply to win it, which includes referees favoring them as much as possible and of course, home ice advantage!
     
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    I am starting to shed a tear here.....

    Sounds like sour grapes to me
     
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    I find this quote to be just more whining. Before the tourney started, I remember you Wilka saying how Canada was overrated, and how they won't win. You've predicted losses for them both times if I'm correct? If you were so sure of these things before, why is this tourney slanted towards the Canadians? Just because they won their first two games?

    All these european players play their games on NHL Ice Rinks in the year. Hockey is the most popular sport in Canada. Why would the NHL want Canada to win the tournament? You and the people who constantly state that Canada is wanted to win by the NHL fail to give a reason for it. Home Ice Advantage? It doesn't matter if Canada doesn't bid for the world championships, it still doesn't take away from the fact that the European countries always host the tournament, have international referees giving THEM the benefit of the calls, and still can't win with any sort of consistency.

    It seems to me that even if Canada beat Russia in the middle of Moscow with the largest size rink and Vladimir Putin refereeing, you would still find something to complain about. If Canada is wanted to win this tournament, why watch? You obviously hate the country for some reason, so don't bother watching what many of us feel is the best hockey in the world despite it being on a smaller rink, the way the game was meant to be played.
     
  24. Papa Smurf

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    Touche my friend, touche.
     
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    The tournament isn't hosted by "the European countries".

    Whether it's in Finland or in Canada, Slovakia is away all the same.
     
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