Some more CBA unknown info

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  1. RangerBoy

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    No more Marek Zidlicky's in the 6th round at the age of 24

    http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ageid=968867503640&col=970081593064&t=TS_Home

    http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...7&call_pageid=1044442959412&col=1044442957278
     
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    sounds like using the average salary over the length of a contract is only for existing contracts, not new ones
     
  3. RangerBoy

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    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050720.wxnhlbonuses20/BNStory/Sports/
     
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    This makes sense.
     
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    Donald Rumsfeld explains the new CBA: "There are what we call known knowns.. those are things that we know exist, and we know about. There are also known unknowns, things that we suspect are there but don't know details of. Then there are unknown unknowns..."

    edit: Rummy, you idiot!
     
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    Some more stuff from the new CBA

    No more Option years on contracts ...!!!
    The NHL will now pay the top players and trophy winners and it will not count against an individual cap.

    Injured players and older player exceptions to performance bonuses ..


    Loophole have been serious addressed , however penalties not metioned yet, but it will be interesting to see how severe they are ..

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    You mean Rumsfeld, of course.
     
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    Of course. But it's still funny (at least to me).
     
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    :biglaugh:

    I thoguht it was funny still, lol.
     
  11. Does it say anywhere that teams cannot hire the players wife as "Office Staff" at ridiculous salaries or are we still able to try and slide through that little window of opportunity? :D
     
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    Very interesting. Does this mean since they're easier to get, there will be a lot of European free agents coming over, or fewer because the supply suddenly got higher? Or one and then the other? Will teams have to sign previous European draft picks by a certain time, or will this not apply to them?
     
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    Guess the European free agents will not be part of the entry level system ;)

    Teams will have to sign their european draft picks within two years of drafting them.Just the CHL players.Or lose their rights
     
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    The old CBA based it on age though 18 - 25 years signed to your first NHL contract was subject to ELS system just less years based on age .

    Will be interesting to see how this changes under the new CBA ..

    What about previously drafted Euro's ??

    Is the clock ticking on Ovechkin and Malkin and their teams have only 1 more year to come to a deal ore the re-enter or become UFA ??

    What about Euro transfer fees of old ?? ..

    If you draft a Euro now and he comes with a $1 mil transfer fee to get his rights to NA does that count against a team cap ??
     
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    This is good. It will allow teams to sign guys like Lindros, Berard, and Allison to fair, low risk contracts.
     
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    and Mogilny type players that got paid all last year as injury insurance ..
     
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    That's huge. I like it a lot. I like it even more than hard cap :bow:
     
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    I'm hearing the new IIHF transfer deal would have signing deadline of 15th of June. If that happens, draft and sign wouldn't have worked with older players from Europe anyway. This new system is much more fair to euro players, though most likely the number of them getting drafted will drop a lot. Even if the draft age would be raised, 21 is very young age for many European players to sign. Or maybe we'll see euro prospects being signed, but assigned to their European teams.
     
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    finally found out what happens with RFA offer sheet compensation:

    Max compensation is now 4 firsts for 5+ mil players.


    Will this change the frequency with which RFA offer sheets are given out?
     
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    Messenger good question. Would like to add that if the '03 and '04 draftees are able to take the benefits(minimum salary, bonuses) of the previous CBA would they also be confined to the restrictions of the previous CBA, like being property of the the team drafting them until 30 or 31 from the european player perspective?
     
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    What about ??

    So what happens to a players like top prospects Alexander Perezhogin or Igor Grigorenko drafted in 2001 and unsigned both are will be 22 soon. ?

    When do they have to be signed by ??

    If they don't accept the offer from the drafting team are they UFA to sign with anyone ??
     
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    Perezhogin has 3-years contract with Habs. 1 year left, as I know.
     
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    Good point on him what about the 100's of other Euro's .. players like

    Alexei Kaygorodov Center
    Born Jul 29 1983
    Height 6.00 -- Weight 192
    Selected by Ottawa Senators round 2 #47 overall 2002 NHL Entry Draft

    Now will 22 before the draft so he can't re-enter ..

    Was 2nd in scoring in the RSL last year ??

    Will he be a UFA in a week if unsigned and is he confined to the ELS system when signed by someone else ??
     
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    Yeah, it's quite shocking that in a 600 page document there's a clause that effectively puts a blanket over any loophole real, imagined, or not yet thought of.

    Who would have thought they'd protect themselves in such a manner?

    Oh, right, about 90% of fans who kept saying this CBA would be tight as a tank.

    I hope we can sticky some clauses, once they're public, to end the speculation of players washing their daughter's wiener dog for $5 million dollars after a three-way buyout-and-trade-and-under-the-table-understanding-wink-wink bull**** that keeps getting proposed.
     
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