Confirmed with Link: Soderberg to Avs - 5yrs @ 4.75AAV

[agentblack]

There's just something about enthusiastic players that just make me root for them. Might be the fact it's easy for a fan to associate with a player if they both have an outwards passion for the team.

Yeah same here, Duchene encompasses that feeling to a tee. Also not to get totally OT but I have feelin
this is a big reason they didnt draft Jones.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Yeah same here, Duchene encompasses that feeling to a tee. Also not to get totally OT but I have feelin
this is a big reason they didnt draft Jones.

Because he didn't want to be an Av? What do you mean.

I love it when guys love playing for the team and representing my state. It does mean something to me. I'm happy the new guys are happy, hopefully they'll form a connection to the franchise and state.

 

[agentblack]

Because he didn't want to be an Av? What do you mean.

I love it when guys love playing for the team and representing my state. It does mean something to me. I'm happy the new guys are happy, hopefully they'll form a connection to the franchise and state.

Possibly, I thought I read somewhere he didnt give the best interview, plus didnt he say he
was a wings fan? Im totally speculating here.

I think if I had to rank the reasons they passed on Jones
1) Roy
2) Barrie
3) Interview/General perception

 

[tigervixxxen]

Nah, I don't think it was Jones or anything he did. I just think they decided they wanted a forward a and Roy wanted MacKinnon.

 

[agentblack]

Nah, I don't think it was Jones or anything he did. I just think they decided they wanted a forward a and Roy wanted MacKinnon.

 

[dahrougem2]

I think if I had to rank the reasons they passed on Jones
1) MacKinnon
2) Barkov
3) Drouin

Fixed

 

[agentblack]

Fixed

 

[Bubba Thudd]

I think its time to say - good Chambers.

And that was the last time I will say that!

 

[UncleRisto]

I see George found a way to streamline his autograph now that he's only allowed to sign AttaBoys. And I guess aw****s too.

 

[Eye of Ra]

His stats are not pretty this season, a terrible view for my eyes. Is he really that bad? What happend?

 

[forsbergavs32]

His stats are not pretty this season, a terrible view for my eyes. Is he really that bad? What happend?

Essentially Bednar didn't give him much of a chance, so he pretty much mailed it in by November

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Essentially Bednar didn't give him much of a chance, so he pretty much mailed it in by November

I think it would be disingenuous to say that it was Bednar's fault alone, or even mostly Bednar's fault

Soderberg has played like **** and if he mailed it in after a month, it's on him not the coach

 

[henchman21]

I think it would be disingenuous to say that it was Bednar's fault alone, or even mostly Bednar's fault

Soderberg has played like **** and if he mailed it in after a month, it's on him not the coach

I'd be more inclined to agree with you if it was only Soda, but it isn't.

 

[UncleRisto]

His stats are not pretty this season, a terrible view for my eyes. Is he really that bad? What happend?

Is it a terrible sight for his eyes too or just one of them?

 

[Bender]

I'd be more inclined to agree with you if it was only Soda, but it isn't.

This is 100% accurate. Across the board, every single established player has had a 'down' season...it's really remarkable.

After Colbourne scored a hat trick on opening night, he was almost immediately relegated and buried as a depth player. It was weeks until he got another chance on a top line and it didn't last long...it wasn't much of a chance at all. Not saying he would have been a top-6 guy all year long but Bednar clearly burned bridges with a lot of players on this team.

Just a season full of

 

[tigervixxxen]

If we weren't talking about Soda, Mitchell and Colborne the argument would be stronger too.

 

[Avs44]

I'd be more inclined to agree with you if it was only Soda, but it isn't.

Bednar deserves a massive portion of the blame, but it still doesn't excuse Soderberg either. He flat out gave up a month into the season because he didn't like how a rookie coach treated him. That's disappointing to see from a veteran, to say the least.

 

[Bender]

Bednar deserves a massive portion of the blame, but it still doesn't excuse Soderberg either. He flat out gave up a month into the season because he didn't like how a rookie coach treated him. That's disappointing to see from a veteran, to say the least.

Yes, but we don't know what was said and how it affected the guys in the room.

As was mentioned, he's clearly not the only one who's been affected. One guy amongst a lot who are all still trying their hardest is one thing. Instead, it's the guys trying their hardest that are sticking out like a sore thumb.

This is ALL on Bednar. It's his JOB to make sure that for whatever reason player X isn't performing, that he frikkin' gets him to perform. Some things cannot be unsaid and I suspect that's what's at play here with a lot of these players.

 

[henchman21]

If we weren't talking about Soda, Mitchell and Colborne the argument would be stronger too.

How about with Iggy, McLeod, Comeau, and Duchene added to the list?

Bednar deserves a massive portion of the blame, but it still doesn't excuse Soderberg either. He flat out gave up a month into the season because he didn't like how a rookie coach treated him. That's disappointing to see from a veteran, to say the least.

Part of being an NHL head coach is dealing with NHL personalities. I'd argue it is probably the most difficult part of the job... Bednar has failed massively. If it was just a player or two, it would be one thing. It is nearly the entire team. Even EJ isn't defending.

 

[The Kingslayer]

You cant name one player who has thrived under Bednar. Not one. Some might mention Rantanen but I think Rantanen would have been this good regardless of the coach unless said coach decided to play him 4th line centre or something stupid. Maybbe Grigorenko is the only one but one can argue he might have been this "good" under a different coach aswell. Soderberg is just one on the long ass list of players having worse statistical season in their career.

 

[McMetal]

It's not an accident that he goes from his best season ever, coming into his own as a playmaker and then has his worst NHL season ever. Quitting on the team is unprofessional, but Bednar should not have been giving a 50 point player the slightest reason to do so.

 

[CobraAcesS]

You cant name one player who has thrived under Bednar. Not one. Some might mention Rantanen but I think Rantanen would have been this good regardless of the coach unless said coach decided to play him 4th line centre or something stupid. Maybbe Grigorenko is the only one but one can argue he might have been this "good" under a different coach aswell. Soderberg is just one on the long ass list of players having worse statistical season in their career.

BS I can't; JT Compher, Mark Barberio, Nikita Zadorov, Sven Andrighetto

I'd also say Goldbuff, and FB, but that's not due to their play lol.

Btw... This is not a banner of support for Bednar, just me trolling TKs.

 

[The Kingslayer]

BS I can't; JT Compher, Mark Barberio, Nikita Zadorov, Sven Andrighetto

I'd also say Goldbuff, and FB, but that's not due to their play lol.

Btw... This is not a banner of support for Bednar, just me trolling TKs.

You and I could have coached those guys Cobra lol.

 

[CobraAcesS]

You and I could have coached those guys Cobra lol.

I would have murdered a Zebra or two, and maybe even a few Avs players if I was behind that bench lol.

 

[MonsterMack]

I'm starting to suspect Soda is blind in both eyes