At least they get playing time. From there it’s up to the player to sink or swim.
Let’s also be clear that that’s half a season. If I’m remembering right, Sancho came in January and was also like 17-18. That’s really good for a young guy in a new country playing with a new team.
I do think the MLS is perfect for mid tier players. Maybe not the players that are meant to be world class but for the mid tier like Barco
, the MLS is a great option.
Well played mateI do think the MLS is perfect for mid tier players. Maybe not the players that are meant to be world class but for the mid tier like Barco
You’re not remembering right. He signed in August I believe.
You are correct he signed August 31. Don’t know why I thought he signed in January. Kid was still like 16 going to a new country and a new team. You can’t expect him to jump into the first team right away.
Right but he should be expected to break into an historic City’s XI at the same time?
David should be expected to break into a team that is on the best run in PL history? We should all remember this is what the original conversation was about.
I think he agreed to sign earlier in the year, so that might be it.
1) we are talking about Liverpool 2) Sancho is a great example when comparing David going to Liverpool.
1) Liverpool is not nearly as deep as City; 2) no, he still isn't, because your point is that Sancho wasn't able to break into City but went to Dortmund and played well. This is not a good point because A) Sancho was not able to break into Dortmund immediately either, it took a whole year and we cannot say what would have happened had he stayed at City; B) Sancho was significantly younger, making it more unlikely he could break into a first team in a league that values physicality; and C) City is and was much deeper at Sancho's position than Liverpool at David's
City has immense depth where most of their bench would start for most teams in the world. Liverpool might not have that but they still have Origi, Shaqiri (who’s better than David whether Canada fans want to admit it or not), AOC, and a bunch of young guys that very well could be as good as David. He’s a good player and one of the best Canada has produced in a while and he might even be world class at some point but it’s not like he’s going to become Messi, Ronaldo, or even Aguero.
He's better, and younger as well as being better suited to a top team. Shaqiri is not good.
David is not good right now either then. No the original was you saying that David should go to Liverpool.
What? David is quite good. More important than just his skill he’s an incredibly hard working and intelligent footballer which is one of the reasons I think he’d succeed at a top club. His game intelligence alone is not even comparable to Shaqiri.
I agree. If anything he is everything Klopp/LFC likes about a player. The work rate, the playmaking ability, the finishing and the potential to grow his game even more.
I’m not saying David is bad. That wasn’t my point. Shaqiri is proven at the highest level and in his prime. Even if he’s not playing right now, to say David is better than Shaqiri when he’s been doing it against players in the Belgian league is just false in my eyes. What David has done at such a young age is definitely impressive but he should go to a team where he will start a majority of games or at least play in a majority of games and at Liverpool that’s not going to be the case especially after bringing in Werner which it looks like is gonna happen.
I mean, Shaqiri isn't exactly proven in the sense that he's been moved on by every top team that's had him, and he's never really excelled (it's not like he was a gangbuster for Stoke either). He does well for the Swiss because the entire team revolves around him pretty much but a lot of players flourish in that kind of environment. I think David is the type of talent that will flourish regardless of where he goes because of the way he plays and the type of person he is off the field. Liverpool have been very good at bringing along their young players recently and I think he would fit into that next group very well. Still, I'm happy to see him go somewhere he'll get more minutes, but I see him being a much more successful player than Shaqiri on the whole.
I mean, Shaqiri isn't exactly proven in the sense that he's been moved on by every top team that's had him, and he's never really excelled (it's not like he was a gangbuster for Stoke either). He does well for the Swiss because the entire team revolves around him pretty much but a lot of players flourish in that kind of environment. I think David is the type of talent that will flourish regardless of where he goes because of the way he plays and the type of person he is off the field. Liverpool have been very good at bringing along their young players recently and I think he would fit into that next group very well. Still, I'm happy to see him go somewhere he'll get more minutes, but I see him being a much more successful player than Shaqiri on the whole.
