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The halcyon days
I think that first one was originally for non-ironic use. How far we've come!Why limit ourselves?
I think that first one was originally for non-ironic use. How far we've come!Why limit ourselves?
Glass has taken more shifts with Crosby than Bennett has. And, the only reason he's taken fewer than Bennett with Malkin is because Neal got hurt, not because Bylsma wanted or wants it that way.
Glass has taken more shifts with Crosby than Bennett has. And, the only reason he's taken fewer than Bennett with Malkin is because Neal got hurt, not because Bylsma wanted or wants it that way.
we're not talking about Glass getting shifts with Crosby - which are a result of Sid being double shifted, not Glass being put on the first or second line - I asked you why you think Bylsma would take Jokinen off the second line for Kobasew, and you have given me absolutely no logical reason why Bylsma would think that was a good idea.
we're not talking about Glass getting shifts with Crosby - which are a result of Sid being double shifted, not Glass being put on the first or second line - I asked you why you think Bylsma would take Jokinen off the second line for Kobasew, and you have given me absolutely no logical reason why Bylsma would think that was a good idea.
or it could be that, like most NHL coaches who have the benefit of a very good center, he chooses to employ something called a double-shift, in which said center takes the spot of the 4th line center to get him more ice time and to create matchup problems.
that was too reasonable of an explanation though, so I'm sure a lazy "kool-aid" comment is coming my way in lieu of an intelligent response.
#bylslogic
At some point, Jokinen will struggle. It's his MO. And, it will be Kobasew who gets the shot to replace him. THAT has been Bylsma's MO since the cup.
I wonder if there are any other teams in the league (on these boards) who complain more about their coaches even though they've continued to have winning records year after year. I haven't been on here in a while because every single topic regardless of what it is gets twisted and turned into a DB p*ssing and moaning session. I know this thread was set up in order to complain about the coach some more so I probably should't have even begun to read it but, feeling somewhat optimistic, I began reading with the hope that it might actually discuss D'Agostini since I don't know too much about him.... Should have known better I guess.
It's weird though. I saw the Flyers finally fired their coach and won one game. Now they are losing again. How can that be? We all know that the coach controls everything and the only answer always is to get a new one. That solves everything because the new guy can't possibly be as bad as the one he's replacing. Although I guess if the Pens had a new coach they could be undefeated and wouldn't have lost that one game this season.
I wonder what will be discussed on these boards if the Pens ever do fire Bylsma. It'll be crickets in here. There will be a large number of posters that will have absolutely nothing to say because that's all they ever talk about, in every single post. I suppose it wouldn't take long to find problems with whoever takes over and all will be right in their world again.
DJ will be waived or traded for a 7th and become a mainstay on some other team's 3rd line ala Tangradi and Tube.
I wonder if there are any other teams in the league (on these boards) who complain more about their coaches even though they've continued to have winning records year after year. I haven't been on here in a while because every single topic regardless of what it is gets twisted and turned into a DB p*ssing and moaning session. I know this thread was set up in order to complain about the coach some more so I probably should't have even begun to read it but, feeling somewhat optimistic, I began reading with the hope that it might actually discuss D'Agostini since I don't know too much about him.... Should have known better I guess.
It's weird though. I saw the Flyers finally fired their coach and won one game. Now they are losing again. How can that be? We all know that the coach controls everything and the only answer always is to get a new one. That solves everything because the new guy can't possibly be as bad as the one he's replacing. Although I guess if the Pens had a new coach they could be undefeated and wouldn't have lost that one game this season.
I wonder what will be discussed on these boards if the Pens ever do fire Bylsma. It'll be crickets in here. There will be a large number of posters that will have absolutely nothing to say because that's all they ever talk about, in every single post. I suppose it wouldn't take long to find problems with whoever takes over and all will be right in their world again.
it is very difficult to have an opinion even SLIGHTLY different from the hardline anti-Bylsma crowd on this board without being accused of submitting to some sort of pro-Bylsma groupthink. it sours discussion and leads to increasingly wild and absurd conclusions entering into the popular consciousness as uncontestable facts. I do not like Bylsma very much - if I had my druthers, I'd rather Jacques Martin be calling the shots - but I don't think he is as stupid or maniacally evil as you guys seem to think he is. Whenever someone suggests this, they're shot down and mobbed with sarcastic remarks. It's very off-putting, and I'm not sure if you're trying to monopolize the discussion because you can't conduct a civil debate or because you need an echo chamber.
pretty sure Tangradi is a fourth liner in Winnipeg...
Again, this is the mentality that leads to extending two 34 y/os Duper and Kuni for 4 years, a 36 y/o Adams for 2 years and extending the entire coaching staff.
If you follow this team to see a bunch of reg season wins and disappointing PO losses that fine, but don't complain about ppl who want to actually win in the POs.
pretty sure Tangradi is a fourth liner in Winnipeg...
it is very difficult to have an opinion even SLIGHTLY different from the hardline anti-Bylsma crowd on this board without being accused of submitting to some sort of pro-Bylsma groupthink. it sours discussion and leads to increasingly wild and absurd conclusions entering into the popular consciousness as uncontestable facts. I do not like Bylsma very much - if I ad my druthers, I'd rather Jacques Martin be calling the shots - but I don't think he is as stupid or maniacally evil as you guys seem to think he is. Whenever someone suggests this, they're shot down and mobbed with sarcastic remarks. It's very off-putting.
I answered your question above after the jokes. Jokinen will struggle. Bylsma will move him. Kobasew will get the call because Beau helps the third line. If you don't like the answer, then that's fine. But, there's no reason to play the martyr.
He plays on the 3rd line with Frolik and Jokinen.
http://hockey.dobbersports.com/frozenpool_profiler.php?players=2105&sent=go&games=2013-2014:R
Thank you for admonishing us for having the audacity to want our team to win the cup and thus watching and critiquing games with beating tough defensive teams in mind rather than who wins scoring titles or how entertaining things are. You now may go back to singing Cumbaya My Lord.
it is very difficult to have an opinion even SLIGHTLY different from the hardline anti-Bylsma crowd on this board without being accused of submitting to some sort of pro-Bylsma groupthink. it sours discussion and leads to increasingly wild and absurd conclusions entering into the popular consciousness as uncontestable facts. I do not like Bylsma very much - if I had my druthers, I'd rather Jacques Martin be calling the shots - but I don't think he is as stupid or maniacally evil as you guys seem to think he is. Whenever someone suggests this, they're shot down and mobbed with sarcastic remarks. It's very off-putting, and I'm not sure if you're trying to monopolize the discussion because you can't conduct a civil debate or because you need an echo chamber.
pretty sure Tangradi is a fourth liner in Winnipeg...
He plays on the 3rd line with Frolik and Jokinen.
http://hockey.dobbersports.com/frozenpool_profiler.php?players=2105&sent=go&games=2013-2014:R
KIRK said:Oh, pardon my tone. It's just so 'unbecoming'.
But that has nothing to do with whether or not there's a healthy lineup. That's assuming a completely different parameter that has nothing to do with what we were talking about.
Jussi Jokinen?
Oh, pardon my tone. It's just so 'unbecoming'.
Speaking as someone who stood in the trenches and defended DB agt the pitchfork and torches mob for years, he absolutely no longer deserves the benefit of the doubt, until proven otherwise.
You know what KIRK? I'm sick of you posting your opinion about this team with in depth reasoning and that you have the audacity to back up your claims with stats and facts.
The fact that you would ever dare question a coach that has won a Jack Adams, is Team USAs head coach and is the fastest to 200 wins makes it so I can't enjoy watching games anymore.
I feel that if a team, coach, line or player is successful in the regular season then they have to also be successful in playoffs. if they are not successful it's because of bad bounces or bad goaltending. That's it. Bounces and goaltending.
Please stop posting your opinion on this message board.
Thanks.
You know what KIRK? I'm sick of you posting your opinion about this team with in depth reasoning and that you have the audacity to back up your claims with stats and facts.
The fact that you would ever dare question a coach that has won a Jack Adams, is Team USAs head coach and is the fastest to 200 wins makes it so I can't enjoy watching games anymore.
I feel that if a team, coach, line or player is successful in the regular season then they have to also be successful in playoffs. if they are not successful it's because of bad bounces or bad goaltending. That's it. Bounces and goaltending.
Please stop posting your opinion on this message board.
Thanks.
Actually, the QUESTION of this thread is what happens to Bennett when D'Agostini returns. Several have suggested that Bennett will be scratched sooner rather than later. A side issue became whether Kobasew would end up on Malkin's wing when Neal returns. Given how Jokinen will struggle at some point (and who's to say he doesn't before Neal returns), he will be replaced sooner rather than later and the first choice to replace him will be Kobasew.
Apparently, you like neither answer. The only other issue in this thread is that some people are pouting because the tone in here is just so negative and, by implication, sarcasm and hyperbole are the exclusive property of the pom pom boys around here.
Have I missed something?